Trying to argue with the people who defend this system is pointless. They defend the grind because they think it makes them something special. Goddamn neckbeards. If I could, I would reach through my computer screen and slap some of you silly.

Honestly, this page garnered about 14 pages from last night and the sad part is those defending it have yet to offer a viable reason other than, "not everyone can have these." Anything in any game should be obtainable to everyone in the player-base. If successful real life person #1 has only one hour to play. He should be able to work toward progress in getting these weapons as awfully slow as it may be. As the game currently stands, it is perfectly feasible for someone to invest 4 hours of their time and come out with nothing.

I'm not sure about you guys but I like my time investment in anything I do to have a pay-off. FFXIV does not pay off your time investment with measurable progress. This is not clever game design, it's a time sink that offers no real challenge. For someone like myself who cannot play 24/7 due to actually having a life, the thought of logging on, putting in 4 hours and getting no measurable progress is ridiculous. At least in XI, as grindy and hardcore as it was, I could log on, put in 4 hours and make some progress there. Even WoW during Burning Crusade followed this rule.

You people defending it would make awesome subjects for a dictator. You put up with the crap and defend it. I suggest heading off to North Korea. They could really use people like you.

Finally I would postulate, that the VERY FEW defending it are those who have pretty much been around since day 1, have capped crafting classes and have boatloads of gil. These idiots think they should be rewarded for sticking with the game through the god-awful first year and a half. These are the people those of us with a brain are arguing with. It's like a modified Stockholm Syndrome......SE shouldn't market towards those clowns. They would stay with them through anything.

Quote Originally Posted by Kagato View Post
As I said. I am already halfway to my weapon. What's your excuse other than laziness?
Having a life and a brain.