Yoshida-san: Please Give Us a BETTER System for Relics and Future 2.0 Challenges!

[Chardrizard]

Seals drop rate is like 80% now from 60k chest, went 3/5 so far on seals drop.

[TheVedis]

Seals drop rate is like 80% now from 60k chest, went 3/5 so far on seals drop.

and yet people will still complain about rng just watch

[Nieshua]

Lol wtf do ppl have over 500 post on these forums do you post while crafting or something? This like your sec job? Play game for 8hrs then post for 4? ALL PPL WANT IS A FUCKING PROGRESS BAR!!!!!!!!!! Can you idiots that keep saying they want it easy read that and understand what it means? PROGRESS BAR....PROGRESS BAR!!!!!

[Enfarious]

Lol wtf do ppl have over 500 post on these forums do you post while crafting or something? This like your sec job? Play game for 8hrs then post for 4? ALL PPL WANT IS A FUCKING PROGRESS BAR!!!!!!!!!! Can you idiots that keep saying they want it easy read that and understand what it means? PROGRESS BAR....PROGRESS BAR!!!!!

Yep I do post while I craft, but really in the last 500 days 500 posts is only 1 a day.

[Nieshua]

1 a day really? Why do you think you need to do this most of the ppl with these 500-4000 posts just argue all day. I just think its funny is all but thanks for tryna justify it since you'll be reaching this number shortly. #Don't post so much. Quality > Quantity...PROGRESS BAR!!!!!!!

[Jynx]

Seals drop rate is like 80% now from 60k chest, went 3/5 so far on seals drop.

Shhhhh~ It's only a good drop rate if your character gets it every time other people be damned.

[TheVedis]

Shhhhh~ It's only a good drop rate if your character gets it every time other people be damned.

lol, we all know whos gonna use that arguement, so dont give him ideas

[Kiara]

Seals drop rate is like 80% now from 60k chest, went 3/5 so far on seals drop.

Congrats.

My JP friend just went 0/12 on Seals. Every run over 66,000 Points.

They did see 2 Seal drops to someone else in their pickup group and saw, I think 4+ Barbuts and 1 Hand drop amongst other Militia Items.

But again, seeing 1 or 2 Seals drop and it randomly gets distributed to 1 member. It's still not great for those with bad luck.

I'm currently 0/5 on Seals from the time I got my last one. All over 60,000 Runs.

[Jynx]

My JP friend just went 0/12 on Seals. Every run over 66,000 Points.

They did see 2 Seal drops to someone else in their pickup group.

People need to stop looking at a "No drop" if it didn't drop for you. It's a selfish attitude, but SE perpetuates it by not letting people pass the damn seals.

I'll say the same thing I did with primal loot drops, the drop rate isn't bad but the loot system is terrible. Let us pass the seals when they drop so we can focus on one person at a time or not waste extra seals.

I'm also rather curious how long it will be until so many double meld weapons flood the market that the "RNG melding crap" turns into a mere gil investment.

[Kiara]

People need to stop looking at a "No drop" if it didn't drop for you. It's a selfish attitude, but SE perpetuates it by not letting people pass the damn seals.

I'll say the same thing I did with primal loot drops, the drop rate isn't bad but the loot system is terrible. Let us pass the seals when they drop so we can focus on one person at a time or not waste extra seals.

I'm also rather curious how long it will be until so many double meld weapons flood the market that the "RNG melding crap" turns into a mere gil investment.

Hi Jynx,

I'm usually the first person to help my friends or their friends do whatever Quest / Task / Crafting Assistance they need. Please don't infer that I'm "selfish" for posting the results of what happened in Hamlet Defense per person.

Ultimately, we should definitely take note though, as you bring up: There are 2 "statistical views" that are getting intermingled by the posters here on the forums:

* Drops (for everyone) per Run
* Drops (for the individual) per Run

So while on something like Ifrit, I'm sure some of the people who have been unlucky and gotten no weapons were "0/xx", the *party* may have been "10/xx" etc.

Also, not everyone has time to grind Darklight, Hamlets, Primals 24/7 with their respective LS. Many players also do pick-up parties (or mixed parties with friends from various LSs).

So *for that person* (who's trying to get their own Relic, or trying to get their own Primal Weapon, etc.), it's not unexpected or "selfish" that they'd be discussing their own experience and posting their "drop rate / stats" for themselves.

So maybe someone was "0/10" on their Ifrit Weapon, while someone else in their party did get an Ifrit drop. So for *everyone*, sure, it might've been ~"9/80" so "9 things" dropped. But for that individual person (maybe in a pickup, maybe in an LS where people can keep what they get auto-looted), they really did get "0."