Relic Weapon Revival (06/06/2012)

[Icehunter]

On Excalibur, 6 tries is roughly 35m combining materia/weapon prices.

^This. This is all I've been pissed off about. The double melds are my only issue with these relics I lost 10 mil. I got 6mil now; with no item.

[Isaaru]

^This. This is all I've been pissed off about. The double melds are my only issue with these relics I lost 10 mil. I got 6mil now; with no item.

Then go farm and work for the item. It's a relic for a reason. Not everybody will get one.

[AlphaDragoon]

Then go farm and work for the item. It's a relic for a reason. Not everybody will get one.

As to not have to copy a huge wall of text as to why this logic is flawed, I'll just say go and read my post on page 10 of the thread entitled "Yoshida-san: Please Give Us a BETTER System for Relics and Future 2.0 Challenges!".

[Isaaru]

As to not have to copy a huge wall of text as to why this logic is flawed, I'll just say go and read my post on page 10 of the thread entitled "Yoshida-san: Please Give Us a BETTER System for Relics and Future 2.0 Challenges!".

The weapon part is luck because of the melding, yes. It doesn't have to cost any gil really besides the cost of the coke if you just farm. The seals part is only luck based to an extent, and the dungeon part is entirely luck based. Like I said, it's a relic. The logic that everyone should get one is flawed.

[Icehunter]

The weapon part is luck because of the melding, yes. It doesn't have to cost any gil really besides the cost of the coke if you just farm. The seals part is only luck based to an extent, and the dungeon part is entirely luck based. Like I said, it's a relic. The logic that everyone should get one is flawed.

Do you realize how long it would take to:
Gather raw materials to,
make the mats to,
make the gear you want to,
spiritbind in a party than,
turn into materia and,
hope you have a glorious gold horseshoe up your arse to get the EXACT materia and grade you want?

Double-melding is my only issue yet most of the nutjobs talking to me think I have issue with all else; no I don't; just this. If you've got a few hundred mil do with it what you want but I still think you don't want to lose it >.>

[Isaaru]

Do you realize how long it would take to:
Gather raw materials to,
make the mats to,
make the gear you want to,
spiritbind in a party than,
turn into materia and,
hope you have a glorious gold horseshoe up your arse to get the EXACT materia and grade you want?

Double-melding is my only issue yet most of the nutjobs talking to me think I have issue with all else; no I don't; just this. If you've got a few hundred mil do with it what you want but I still think you don't want to lose it >.>

That post was in response to somebody else. Also, I do know how long it will take. A long time because it's a RELIC. I don't hundreds of millions of gil, I had 40mil. I have since spent around 15mil on attempts to double meld an obelisk. I had failed all 3 attempts. I'm not complaining though. Of course this item is going to take long to get it's supposed to be the best weapon in the game. If you don't like how it is then don't attempt to get it. It's not a requirement to get these weapons, I can guarantee that there will only be a handful of people with them for a very long time.

[Enfarious]

That post was in response to somebody else. Also, I do know how long it will take. A long time because it's a RELIC. I don't hundreds of millions of gil, I had 40mil. I have since spent around 15mil on attempts to double meld an obelisk. I had failed all 3 attempts. I'm not complaining though. Of course this item is going to take long to get it's supposed to be the best weapon in the game. If you don't like how it is then don't attempt to get it. It's not a requirement to get these weapons, I can guarantee that there will only be a handful of people with them for a very long time.

I think the point you and so many others are overlooking/turning a blind eye to is that the time investment is completely based on /randomness. If lady luck favors you on Tuesday and you get your dbl meld 1/1 your 9 seals in 9 hamlet wins it takes you a week and little money. If she's a bitch and you go 1/10 on your dbl meld and your 9 seals take 140 wins then you've spent substantial time and money.

Random isn't a measure of skill or dedication, it's a measure of how much gambling frustration you can take and your stubbornness, or a measure of how lucky you are.

Is the idea that the people that have relics are only the ones that have luck in their corner really the way it should be?
Or perhaps it should be the people that invest substantial time/money and actual show they're dedicated to that goal?

The idea that you might need to, like FFXI Relics/Mythics, need to put in HUGE amounts of time and/or money should be what slows people down and even stops them from bothering. It should NOT be from repeated RNG mushroom stamping.