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    Quote Originally Posted by Crysten View Post
    Not everyone will get one, OK, sure. They're powerful weapons after all.

    However, if three out of the six current known steps involves, in essence, playing the luck game and winning against the random number generator, then the devs have failed in anything remotely promoting "challenge."

    Even XI's relic/mythic weapons didn't focus this hard on sheer, dumb luck.
    xis weapons arent even close to comparing to these though, they were a MASSIVELY long process

    this is just a few steps, that will take a bit of time and effort, and some luck

    its not as bad as you are making it out to be

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheVedis View Post
    xis weapons arent even close to comparing to these though, they were a MASSIVELY long process

    this is just a few steps, that will take a bit of time and effort, and some luck

    its not as bad as you are making it out to be
    With XI's weapons, they took longer, but you always had a sense of progression. I know this first hand.

    With XIV's weapons, they have the potential to take longer due to 50% of the questline being a diceroll.

    I have already said I have no issue with spending months on a quest to complete the best weapon in the game. If it comes to the point where one guy finishes his weapon in a week due to being insanely lucky, whereas another guy is still stuck on the Hamlet stage after months of losing to the RNG, it's then we have a problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AxlStream View Post
    You're good at the game? You're an elitist.
    You're using a parser to better yourself? Elitist.
    You're making suggestions on how someone can improve themselves? E l i t i s t.

    You wipe a farm party constantly but you're having fun playing your way. Nah you're fine dude.

    This community astounds me at times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crysten View Post
    With XI's weapons, they took longer, but you always had a sense of progression. I know this first hand.

    With XIV's weapons, they have the potential to take longer due to 50% of the questline being a diceroll.

    I have already said I have no issue with spending months on a quest to complete the best weapon in the game. If it comes to the point where one guy finishes his weapon in a week due to being insanely lucky, whereas another guy is still stuck on the Hamlet stage after months of losing to the RNG, it's then we have a problem.
    Now, now guys... come on.

    This isn't for everyone. Not everyone's going to get this weapon. I understand if you personally are upset because you don't WANT to do this content and you were looking forward to it. It's disappointing to you personally because you want to get a weapon the way you wanted to, but you have to understand.

    This is 1.0. They're NOT going to add the sort of long term content a la XI. This is not a long term game.

    Would you rather they had waited until 2.0 to release the weapons? Can you imagine the uproar if they had made that announcement?

    Also, this won't be the only long term high powered weapon in the game. I'm sure they'll come out with another set of weapons you can get over a long period AFTER 2.0. This is just the start.

    If you don't want to do it this way, fine. They usually nerf the difficulty after a while anyway. Hahahaha!

    POSTSCRIPT: I don't even feel comfortable calling this AF weapons. These weapons are just the beginning. They're the first JOB-SPECIFIC weapons, but they're not the be-all and end-all of end game.
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    Last edited by HiirNoivl; 06-08-2012 at 01:47 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HiirNoivl View Post
    Now, now guys... come on.

    This isn't for everyone. Not everyone's going to get this weapon. I understand if you personally are upset because you don't WANT to do this content and you were looking forward to it. It's disappointing to you personally because you want to get a weapon the way you wanted to, but you have to understand.

    This is 1.0. They're NOT going to add the sort of long term content a la XI. This is not a long term game.

    Would you rather they had waited until 2.0 to release the weapons? Can you imagine the uproar if they had made that announcement?

    Also, this won't be the only long term high powered weapon in the game. I'm sure they'll come out with another set of weapons you can get over a long period AFTER 2.0. This is just the start.

    If you don't want to do it this way, fine. They usually nerf the difficulty after a while anyway. Hahahaha!

    POSTSCRIPT: I don't even feel comfortable calling this AF weapons. These weapons are just the beginning. They're the first JOB-SPECIFIC weapons, but they're not the be-all and end-all of end game.
    People aren't complaining because it's a long term goal, every MMO needs those obviously. They're complaining because SE seemingly thinks it's a good idea to reward players based on luck and not on effort and/or skill. Granted, the more effort you put in it, the more chances you have of actually having a favorable RNG, but players have the right to be pissed off when they produce said effort and get NOTHING in return if they're unlucky.
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