Relic Weapon Revival (06/06/2012)

[Keyln]

Wow, a bunch of whiners on this thread. It's the most powerful weapons on the server. Did you think it would be easy or simple? Well, it is simple compared to the Mythic weapons in XI...

[Xeonerable]

Step 6 - Double meld the gear with 2 Teir IV Materia of a specific Type as follows:

PLD = Mailbreaker + ? (Most Likely +HP based on AF stats)
MNK = Avengers + Manathirst IV (+MP)
WAR = Rampager + Touch of Rage IV (Emnity)
DRG = Obelisk + Savage Might IV (Crit Attack)
BRD = Sarnga + Heaven's Eye IV (Accuracy)
WHM = Alkaurops + ? (Most likely Mind based on AF stats)
BLM = Astrolobe + Hell's Fist IV (Magic Potency)

hmmmm something about this step makes me suddenly not care!

[Matsume]

hmmmm something about this step makes me suddenly not care!

Don't you want to spend millions of gil obtaining your relic weapon?

[Arkine]

1 - Earn 25,000 seals and buy the key item (Acceptable/Makes sense/takes "effort")


2 - Obtain Inferno Seal x3, Tremor Seal x3, Vortex Seal x3 from Rank 2 Hamlet (gold chest requiring 60K+ scores) (Hey! people are not doing Hamlet because the drop rates are too low! lets include hamlet into the relic quests!) - RNG event, the usual unlikable nonsense that people complain about because it rewards the luck. Unacceptable!


3 - Get a class weapon. (Uh oh! classes are unpopular now that jobs are in games! lets add class spesific junk! UH OH! that didn't help at all since jobs are STILL better than classes! lets add the useless weapons into the relic quest!) Alright... this isn't bad... you either farm gil, materials or whatever and get one of those weapons. Acceptable challenge.



4 - Double meld two Tier IV. More RNG... I think SE did this to punish us for complaining about the materia system.
Bad bad bad.


5 - Kill chief NM of one specified Stronghold. A challenge! been so long since I've seen one of these! Good.

8 - Gather 3 Materials from 6th Chest available at end of AV and CC. More RNG!!! Enough of this!

What is this bullsh*t?!

[TheVedis]

What is this bullsh*t?!

its called :not everyone will get one, it wont be easy, deal with it"

[Crysten]

its called :not everyone will get one, it wont be easy, deal with it"

Not everyone will get one, OK, sure. They're powerful weapons after all.

However, if three out of the six current known steps involves, in essence, playing the luck game and winning against the random number generator, then the devs have failed in anything remotely promoting "challenge."

Even XI's relic/mythic weapons didn't focus this hard on sheer, dumb luck.

[Chardrizard]

lol double melding is in no way hard too, it's .. the only grindy part really is only the primal seals.

[TheVedis]

Not everyone will get one, OK, sure. They're powerful weapons after all.

However, if three out of the six current known steps involves, in essence, playing the luck game and winning against the random number generator, then the devs have failed in anything remotely promoting "challenge."

Even XI's relic/mythic weapons didn't focus this hard on sheer, dumb luck.

xis weapons arent even close to comparing to these though, they were a MASSIVELY long process

this is just a few steps, that will take a bit of time and effort, and some luck

its not as bad as you are making it out to be

[Arcell]

its called :not everyone will get one, it wont be easy, deal with it"

That and it looks like more of a long term goal. Everyone always complains about people having 7/7 within a week. I doubt we'll see that lol. While I'm not a big fan of how RNG heavy it is, it does basically end up as forcing players to prioritize and really strive for these weapons.

[TheVedis]

That and it looks like more of a long term goal. Everyone always complains about people having 7/7 within a week. I doubt we'll see that lol. While I'm not a big fan of how RNG heavy it is, it does basically end up as forcing players to prioritize and really strive for these weapons.

pretty much

i mean its not like i am coming in here saying it isnt bad cuz ill have it easy myself

i have made 0 progress in getting these at all, but after having actualy donr relics myself in 11 and other long term items in other games, i fully understand how this really isnt that bad

the entire point is to not make it easily acessible to complete quickly to everyone, and with that, they have succeeded

anyone who says luck and challenge dont mix are compltely wrong, the problem with "hard fights" being the only requirement to anything, is that once those fights are "solved" and guides put out to do them easier, they are no longer a challenge at all and then everyone has the items in them

add in a luck factor and several steps like this, and it makes it more of a challenge to take the time to do it, time is also a factor in challenge wether people want to accept that or not