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  1. #31
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    Enfarious's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kitfox View Post
    Fun? Nobody does these fights for fun? Already got all I want from ifrit and moogle and I'm still doing them...
    There it is ...

    The root of the problem, no one is doing any of it for fun, cause it isn't fun to do the same thing 2k times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kitfox View Post
    Fun? Nobody does these fights for fun? Already got all I want from ifrit and moogle and I'm still doing them...
    I'm 7/7 on Ifrit, and still do runs from time to time. I have fun too, but that does not make the whole "hope you get lucky!" mechanic better.
    I've said once, and I'll say it again: drops should be more about skill and less about luck.
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  3. #33
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    Quote Originally Posted by KoujiGeki View Post
    ya but to easier of drop rates also makes it people get what they want and then no one does ifrit anymore.
    I'm picking on this post because it was the first of its kind in this particular thread.

    Are you serious?

    Can you think of a particularly good reason why people shouldn't stop doing it? Do you think we should just keep fighting Ifrit every day until the end of time, and it's a good thing that SE has tried to make exactly that happen? I just don't know how people in FF11 got along, barely killing avatars more than a dozen times over the span of several years. We should have forced them to fight them every day for the rest of their lives.

    Trolls and apologists will destroy this game, and the official forums will be the juggernaut they ride us all straight to the jaws of defeat in.

    People do content. People get what they want. People stop doing content. That is... normal. Expected. It's all part of the plan. And, if you have to do it sparingly enough to get what you want, while keeping it fresh and fun, folks might even help the next generation through it, which is what keeps folks doing content. Not punishing drop rates that make no one want to do it to begin with, and makes them swear off ever doing it again once they have what they want, which means the next generation better help the next generation out, because the previous generation is done with that content for the duration of the game. Period.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chardrizard View Post
    I kind of recall 2 raids, 3 hamlets and 3 primals that people are still actively doing.

    Yes the drop rates for aurum vale and cutters cry is the same way. Now at least on my server there are very few parties that are actually doing hamlets, aurum vale and cutter's cry and the main reason is because the drop rates are very low and it is indeed a waste of time for players to continue doing any of these. Now the Devs have 2 choice and they would be 1. keep the same crappy drop rates or 2 increase the drop rates. They really dont have much choice but to increase the drop rates now it is a no brainer because sooner or later (more likely sooner) player will stop doing the content (alot at this point have) or just stop playing FFXIV altogether (some have already started to). It is now in the Devs hands to fix this problem or just turn a blind eye at it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by syntaxlies View Post
    Av and cc make ifrit look like a lot better
    Wait till OP starts Darklight gears hunting
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eyn View Post
    Wait till OP starts Darklight gears hunting
    I thought if i spam enough raids i will eventually get some DL......
    lol........ how wrong i was.

    Still at 0 after hundreds of runs.
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  7. #37
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hiruke View Post
    I'm picking on this post because it was the first of its kind in this particular thread.

    Are you serious?

    Can you think of a particularly good reason why people shouldn't stop doing it? Do you think we should just keep fighting Ifrit every day until the end of time, and it's a good thing that SE has tried to make exactly that happen? I just don't know how people in FF11 got along, barely killing avatars more than a dozen times over the span of several years. We should have forced them to fight them every day for the rest of their lives.

    Trolls and apologists will destroy this game, and the official forums will be the juggernaut they ride us all straight to the jaws of defeat in.

    People do content. People get what they want. People stop doing content. That is... normal. Expected. It's all part of the plan. And, if you have to do it sparingly enough to get what you want, while keeping it fresh and fun, folks might even help the next generation through it, which is what keeps folks doing content. Not punishing drop rates that make no one want to do it to begin with, and makes them swear off ever doing it again once they have what they want, which means the next generation better help the next generation out, because the previous generation is done with that content for the duration of the game. Period.
    That, and it needs to be said again and again so I'll probably re-quote it later too.
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