Dragoon pretty amazing now with 1.21a hotfix.

[Ambuter]

You can't beat monk--- dragoon are still lame for dps

they made a mistake --- they improved all the dps- for all frontline jobs.
Only dragoon needed improvement.

I'm sorry but no. Drg has amazing dmg output. It's way more versatile then Mnk. Easily kept up with Mnk dmg on Miser.

[Silvano]

Usually it goes BLM -> WAR(if tanking, before hotfix) -> DRG -> MNK/BRD.
(Moggle: DRG -> WARtank -> BLM/MNK -> BRD)

My personal specialty is Moggle, with a side of Ifrit and Miser if you want to test this(Edit: sorry, different servers) ^_~

Edit: Actually, after the Power Surge revamp, I can stay within 1k of the BLMs on Ifrit usually.

[Krausus]

In the current system of where bosses can 1 shot you or bring you dangerously close to death with most attacks on their movesets i dont think theres much danger of life surge hampering the incentive to weave. I dont really care how they fix life surge but you cant deny that weaponskill usage has increased dramatically and so long as your weaponskilling you arent getting hp from lifesurge pitiful as it is already. Life Surge should be buffed to add to lancer's options when in a pt or solo or it should be scrapped entirely and given something else it doesnt have to be godly but atleast of some use. Same goes for Dreadspikes.

pretty sure Life surge is not meant to keep you alive when facing a boss. Its purpose is to sustain longevity when soloing normal mobs and replenishing yourself from AoE/situational damage in party battles which is does quite well at the moment, coupled with Second Wind we can pretty much fight with no down time needed what so ever and usually without any fear of getting in over our heads.

As for dread spikes I would like to see this become more useful.

[Tango]

I'm interested in DPS on a target like mistress on LNC vs DRG. Being able to use the Obelisk+1 is pretty priceless the DPS rating is 41.18?+ and the DMG is around ifrits. Also you can meld on these so I stuck a +20 STR on mine (too scared to double meld without a backup). The gearset on my LNC gives me around 550atk power, 400STR, and 310PIE. I can't wait to test out this setup on a mistress or Ifrit. You also gain some great sub job skills like blindside that you loose on DRG.

But then again I loose out on jump/elusive jump and ring of talons.

[Skies]

I'm interested in DPS on a target like mistress on LNC vs DRG. Being able to use the Obelisk+1 is pretty priceless the DPS rating is 41.18?+ and the DMG is around ifrits. Also you can meld on these so I stuck a +20 STR on mine (too scared to double meld without a backup). The gearset on my LNC gives me around 550atk power, 400STR, and 310PIE. I can't wait to test out this setup on a mistress or Ifrit. You also gain some great sub job skills like blindside that you loose on DRG.

But then again I loose out on jump/elusive jump and ring of talons.

Whereas I am very sure you mean something else from another class like Bloodbath or something- Blindside is from Monk that is one of Dragoon's subs

[Tango]

Whereas I am very sure you mean something else from another class like Bloodbath or something- Blindside is from Monk that is one of Dragoon's subs

I guess your right, there is no sub skills missing from a DPS perspective by being a DRG. You gain a lot of support skills like bloodbath/sentinel/sacred prism/stoneskin but none of those should help your DPS directly.

[Krausus]

I guess your right, there is no sub skills missing from a DPS perspective by being a DRG. You gain a lot of support skills like bloodbath/sentinel/sacred prism/stoneskin but none of those should help your DPS directly.

yeah hard to say, on one hand you can probably have an easier time boosting stats on LNC yet you loose out on your jumps, ring of talons, and disembowel

[HoolieWho]

Especially now that Power Surge needs to be built up using attacks, not having Jump and Disembowel will slow you down a little bit there.

I wonder how much a higher DPS weapon raises stat caps (assuming it does).