2.0 is promising too much!!

[fredtma]

it takes at least 3 years to build a block buster MMO, I cannot see SE do it in one. even if it is an upgrade, all I foresee is one big path

[Starlord]

it takes at least 3 years to build a block buster MMO, I cannot see SE do it in one. even if it is an upgrade, all I foresee is one big path

Well they had/have 2 years to build this expansion like content, when expansion come out like once a year :P.

[Delsus]

it takes at least 3 years to build a block buster MMO, I cannot see SE do it in one. even if it is an upgrade, all I foresee is one big path

It depends on alot of things, SE have a large team working on 2.0, and the 2.0 client is supposed to be alot more dev friendly than the 1.xx client.

Also that 3 years is what it made to build the vanila FFXIV with all its flaws. and SE have been working on it for about 1.5 years now and alot of content will just be ported over which takes no time (they can just push the existing 1.xx code through an algorithm and make the changes automatically to make it compatible.)

[Rutelor]

[...] Also that 3 years is what it made to build the vanila FFXIV with all its flaws [...]

I believe it was at least twice that much time, probably more. It was widely known that SE was working on project Rapture as far back as early 2006. The first nameless Technical Demo Video, with a city eerily reminiscent of all three current ones, Gridania (the stained glass), Uldah (the architectural shapes), and Limsa (the multi-leveled cat-walk-over-harbor plan), was presented in May, 2005 at E3. (I also hope the dragons hovering over the lake are a promise of things to come, once Ishgard becomes accessible.)

So, from first video to launch, it took almost 7 years.

Taking into account that this sort of a project usually has a bit over a year under its wings when it's first aired, some experts have calculated 8 years, by mid-2012 (wish I could find the quotation for the latter. Apologies about that).

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[Elexia]

I believe it was at least twice that much time, probably more. It was widely known that SE was working on project Rapture as far back as early 2006.

Actually, XIV didn't go into actual production till around 2007, when they pulled the XI crew to focus on it. This is why WoTG expansion took over 3 years for them to finish it. Zilart, CoP and ToAU didn't take 3 years for them to finish, even the conclusion mission between Zilart and CoP (Apocalypse Neigh) came out fairly quickly.

The technical demo was just that, a technical demo or we'd have a PS3 version of FFVII if we're using tech demos as a basis on when something goes into production.

[Elexia]

it takes at least 3 years to build a block buster MMO, I cannot see SE do it in one. even if it is an upgrade, all I foresee is one big path

..I notice you have a 50 weaver, which means you play FFXIV. You do realize you're already playing the MMO, right? 2.0 being done in "1 year" is just overhauling pre existing assets, which makes things worlds quicker than building from scratch.

This is why people were hard on Dragon Age 2, because they used pre-existing assets to make the game in about a year and did the unfortunate path of not showing any love or care for it in the process.

[Airget]

..I notice you have a 50 weaver, which means you play FFXIV. You do realize you're already playing the MMO, right? 2.0 being done in "1 year" is just overhauling pre existing assets, which makes things worlds quicker than building from scratch.

This is why people were hard on Dragon Age 2, because they used pre-existing assets to make the game in about a year and did the unfortunate path of not showing any love or care for it in the process.

To an extent but I"m not sure about DA2 but didn't it use the same exact engine as DA? So if that's the case then it's not really like 1.0-2.0 since the code for 2.0 had to be written from scratch based on what was on 1.0. It's not as hard as making a new mmo from scratch but it's still a strenuous task since it's not as simple as saying ok, we can move all these 1.0 models to 2.0, they have to make every single model from scratch including all the armor/weapons they made for 1.0.
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To the OP though. topics like this are becoming tedious, is it really necessary to have topics like this come up as the information for 2.0 comes closer. Wouldn't it be better to just sit back and be patient rather then act paranoid over the fact that maybe it won't be good. How can you tell unless you are actually working side by side with them or actually see the information they are going to post in the next few days.

You're better off just leaving topics like this in your head and waiting til the information is released before you start acting paranoid. If you see the site and find yourself taking back from stuff you find won't make 2.0 good for you, then feel free to make a topic like this. But it just seems completely unnecessary for topics like this to come up as the day draws closer to the E3 reveal. Just gotta be patient for a few more days lol.

[Xaimera]

To an extent but I"m not sure about DA2 but didn't it use the same exact engine as DA? So if that's the case then it's not really like 1.0-2.0 since the code for 2.0 had to be written from scratch based on what was on 1.0. It's not as hard as making a new mmo from scratch but it's still a strenuous task since it's not as simple as saying ok, we can move all these 1.0 models to 2.0, they have to make every single model from scratch including all the armor/weapons they made for 1.0.
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To the OP though. topics like this are becoming tedious, is it really necessary to have topics like this come up as the information for 2.0 comes closer. Wouldn't it be better to just sit back and be patient rather then act paranoid over the fact that maybe it won't be good. How can you tell unless you are actually working side by side with them or actually see the information they are going to post in the next few days.

You're better off just leaving topics like this in your head and waiting til the information is released before you start acting paranoid. If you see the site and find yourself taking back from stuff you find won't make 2.0 good for you, then feel free to make a topic like this. But it just seems completely unnecessary for topics like this to come up as the day draws closer to the E3 reveal. Just gotta be patient for a few more days lol.

i can't wait for E3 this year more than ever just because i want to see what SE has ready for 2.0 it might show what well see at launch, hopefully.

[Astorlok]

To an extent but I"m not sure about DA2 but didn't it use the same exact engine as DA? So if that's the case then it's not really like 1.0-2.0 since the code for 2.0 had to be written from scratch based on what was on 1.0. It's not as hard as making a new mmo from scratch but it's still a strenuous task since it's not as simple as saying ok, we can move all these 1.0 models to 2.0, they have to make every single model from scratch including all the armor/weapons they made for 1.0.
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To the OP though. topics like this are becoming tedious, is it really necessary to have topics like this come up as the information for 2.0 comes closer. Wouldn't it be better to just sit back and be patient rather then act paranoid over the fact that maybe it won't be good. How can you tell unless you are actually working side by side with them or actually see the information they are going to post in the next few days.

You're better off just leaving topics like this in your head and waiting til the information is released before you start acting paranoid. If you see the site and find yourself taking back from stuff you find won't make 2.0 good for you, then feel free to make a topic like this. But it just seems completely unnecessary for topics like this to come up as the day draws closer to the E3 reveal. Just gotta be patient for a few more days lol.

What the? Voices of reason? You get out of here with your logic and patience! We're waiting for the gubernment to try and take our guns and our magical catgirls from our COLD DEAD HANDS.