Quote Originally Posted by faris View Post
I'm thinking exactly what you're thinking with Dalamud. Also, it's so Final Fantasy for ancients being way smarter than us present-day idiots, and we screw it all up somehow. Yoshi-P wanted a "Final Fantasy feel", so perhaps it's coming in form of that trope.

That's a possibility too, with the gigas! But I'm thinking more of the Vans. What if they're already partially twisted, and the actual impact will make them worse? Or make all of the Empire's soldiers like them? That thought would be terrifying.
Yeah exactly, like someone said in another thread, math wise its been about 4500+ years since the Allagans were alive. That is a lot of time for stories to be forgotten. People who weren't apart of the Allagan empire would probably just assume it was another moon.

Quote Originally Posted by Teakwood View Post
Well, in FFXI, the Knights of Odin were all, strictly speaking and playing the long game, on the side of Vana'diel; that was the central plot twist of three out of four expansions. I'm not -quite- ready to say that van Darnus actually is right when he says he's bringing about the apocalypse for our own good, but...

I'm not sure it's Odin- although now that I've seen your theorising I'm /nearly/ sure- but I think it's a safe bet that Dalamud is a prison.

More (admittedly circumstantial) evidence towards the existence of technology for imprisoning Primals - in the opening movie, the Garlean airship which the Guardian of the Lake destroys explodes in a huge aetheric surge; several Primals including Ifrit recognisably launch themselves out of said aetheric surge, implying to me that prior to that moment 20-odd years ago, the Primals of Eorzea were still imprisoned - perhaps within Allagan technology that the Empire had taken control of.

Here's a spitball - Odin manipulated someone into attempting to use ancient Allagan tech to vacuum up the Keeper of the Lake into the airship, knowing that the Keeper would bring the airship down and go down with it, releasing Primals trapped within the ship. Then, 20 years later, Odin manipulates von Darnus into another attack on Eorzea, this time utilising Dalamud, bringing it close enough that he'll be able to escape back into Eorzea!

I've put far too much thought into this
To me watching the CS, the Primals aren't released until the crashing into Silvertear Lake. Maybe the Primals were inside of the Crystal Tower asleep and the crash interrupted the aether flow of the area, woke them up, and they were free.

I'm definitely for the idea that Odin is manipulating the Vans, same way Nidhogg manipulated the Dragoon guy. The armor is just so eerily similar.

Quote Originally Posted by Teakwood View Post
OH YEAH maybe you can answer this one for me: Where in-text is it confirmed that the Keeper of the Lake's proper name is Midgardsormr? I feel really silly asking this but I somehow haven't stumbled upon that bit of text and it's driving me crazy.

I wish there were a Lore forum! I know they're planning on adding one but it can't come soon enough.
A NPC in Ul'Dah? tells you. But also: http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Midgardsormr