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    Quote Originally Posted by Frein View Post
    It's pointless to ever gear your warrior with -enmity. There is no scenario where a warrior can both pull hate and does not want to do just that.
    Wrong, a DD WAR can use -enmity and you would not want to pull hate from the tank. For example, I've been using the Flame Sergeant's Tabard on my WAR for DD and do not make up the -20 enmity with any other gear other than what's on the af head and pants. I would agree that touch of serenity materia IS useless for a WAR, however.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Molly_Millions View Post
    Wrong, a DD WAR can use -enmity and you would not want to pull hate from the tank. For example, I've been using the Flame Sergeant's Tabard on my WAR for DD and do not make up the -20 enmity with any other gear other than what's on the af head and pants. I would agree that touch of serenity materia IS useless for a WAR, however.
    A DD WAR can't put out enough damage to ever pull hate from the tank unless you're in a an AoE spam situation, in which case nobody cares and BLM can tank just fine. You don't need -enmity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frein View Post
    A DD WAR can't put out enough damage to ever pull hate from the tank unless you're in a an AoE spam situation, in which case nobody cares and BLM can tank just fine. You don't need -enmity.
    False. DPSing on Ifrit with MRD and was red in the majority of the battle before hellfire. You could do it with WAR as well, just have to be more careful on combos.

    WAR is NOT just a tanking job, so get that out your head please and thank you
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    Main tank dies and goes after whm or blm, mission accomplished.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeadRiser View Post
    False. DPSing on Ifrit with MRD and was red in the majority of the battle before hellfire. You could do it with WAR as well, just have to be more careful on combos.

    WAR is NOT just a tanking job, so get that out your head please and thank you
    Your tank must have sucked. WAR single-target DPS is not very good at all, and even less so at Ifrit where you can't just constantly go all out the way the tank can.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frein View Post
    Your tank must have sucked. WAR single-target DPS is not very good at all, and even less so at Ifrit where you can't just constantly go all out the way the tank can.
    Your own opinion, but don't shove your opinion down everyone's throat. MRD/WAR can DD pretty decent if given the chance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeadRiser View Post
    Your own opinion, but don't shove your opinion down everyone's throat. MRD/WAR can DD pretty decent if given the chance.
    With my GC gear on, I can out DD everyone in the Garuda fight but the BLMs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeadRiser View Post
    Your own opinion, but don't shove your opinion down everyone's throat. MRD/WAR can DD pretty decent if given the chance.
    No, it's not my opinion. It's fact. You have DRG and MNK at 50, so you should know they blow WAR out of the water against a single target.
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    Last edited by Frein; 06-08-2012 at 06:28 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frein View Post
    No, it's not my opinion. It's fact. You have DRG and MNK at 50, so you should know they blow WAR out of the water against a single target.
    But you have to realize they aren't the best pick.

    What if your party so happens to mess up on nails and not get them all down? At least as a MRD I can heal myself plus I have at least 600+ more health than the other two classes/jobs you are talking about.

    It's not ALWAYS about dps, sometimes it's about survival. And a MRD/WAR has a bigger healthpool which means more survival as a DD
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frein View Post
    No, it's not my opinion. It's fact. You have DRG and MNK at 50, so you should know they blow WAR out of the water against a single target.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FopyRHHlt3M
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