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  1. #71
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daku_Naito View Post
    So the people in the forums like FFXI, so the devs are listening and doing more FFXI stuff, yet Yoshi-P is imitating WoW? I don't get it. It would be stupid for any developer to not follow some of the good in WoW, it was very popular. I think Yoshi-P has done well, and there isn't any evidence against so.
    WoW is just FFXI with instances and casual gameplay. Both WoW and FFXI are out-dated compared to current generation MMOs like Guild Wars 2 and TERA and Blade and Soul and ArcheAge etc. All the current games are bringing something new to the table in terms of questing, combat, or freedom. Meanwhile, FFXIV is harkening back to the days of WoW and FFXI and will suffer for it.
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    THere are many games and MMo attempts that didn't take player feedback.. Yet they are no longer around.

    There is a balance. You do need to supprot your strongest user base, and decide what concepts are able to be worked in, and what are not. One person may have a vision, and thousands of subscribing customers may not like it. Can't allianate your customer base, or you won't survive in business.

    As hyped as GW 2 is, when you have played the beta since the clossed beta, it simply doesn't have that exileratign feeling. THer are issues with it, broken balances, and it will ahve to be worked on for some time even after the upcoming retail release. Hopefull yteh dull enemy animatiosn will be worked on. Rift is more fun to be honest then GW2 and far less buggy. Haven't played enough Tera to care.

    I enjoy FFXI and XIV because of the more relistic timings, casting, attacking. Not the a-typical spam spells garabage. OR te AI that seems to be programmed by a 3 year old.
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    Last edited by kazaran; 05-20-2012 at 12:15 PM.

  3. #73
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    Quote Originally Posted by kazaran View Post
    Can't allianate your customer base, or you won't survive in business.
    The amusing part is, the NA players think they're the user base~
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  4. #74
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    Quote Originally Posted by Denmo View Post
    The amusing part is, the NA players think they're the user base~
    We make up nearly half of their income. We better be considered a big part of the user base.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gramul View Post
    We make up nearly half of their income. We better be considered a big part of the user base.

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    Ah so you are the minority then, nice to hear you admit it:P
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobbygunz View Post
    WoW is just FFXI with instances and casual gameplay. Both WoW and FFXI are out-dated compared to current generation MMOs like Guild Wars 2 and TERA and Blade and Soul and ArcheAge etc. All the current games are bringing something new to the table in terms of questing, combat, or freedom. Meanwhile, FFXIV is harkening back to the days of WoW and FFXI and will suffer for it.
    Tera is as old and generic as it gets. Only the battle system is different, everything else is what was present in MMOs from the 90s to now. ALL new MMOs suffer simply for the fact "it's not WoW" or "not a WoW killer" or tries to hard to mimic WoW.

    SWTOR and RIFT were the highly anticipated western MMOs..look at how they turned out, MMOs suffer for reasons beyond being "old school" and just because you don't like those, doesn't mean it will suffer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elexia View Post
    Tera is as old and generic as it gets. Only the battle system is different, everything else is what was present in MMOs from the 90s to now. ALL new MMOs suffer simply for the fact "it's not WoW" or "not a WoW killer" or tries to hard to mimic WoW.

    SWTOR and RIFT were the highly anticipated western MMOs..look at how they turned out, MMOs suffer for reasons beyond being "old school" and just because you don't like those, doesn't mean it will suffer.
    So did SWTOR fail?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hycinthus View Post
    So did SWTOR fail?
    It actually is starting to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thebard View Post
    Ah so you are the minority then, nice to hear you admit it:P
    What does that have to do with anything?
    If thay only listen to Japan or the English speakers, they loose out on nearly half of their projected income. That would be stupid.
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  10. #80
    Quote Originally Posted by Gramul View Post
    What does that have to do with anything?
    If thay only listen to Japan or the English speakers, they loose out on nearly half of their projected income. That would be stupid.
    Likewise if they listen to NA for their wants, they lose out on what the other playerbase wanted because chances are if one side is for making a character start maxed out and pushed to EG asap (Exampled NA want) and the JP/EU side didn't want that, guess who they'll lose out on?

    That's the purpose of striking a balance..or just making the game how the company wants.
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