I'm frustrated by player misconduct...

[Zaene]

I agree. Very good. However, I suppose any talk of values or knowing how to ask politely or be generous has no place then? The very concept of "Random Party = no rules, whoever gets it, gets it, end of story" seems to be a function of the issue of self-centered gameplay.

If I'm playing and I get a drop then Brwhahsdahhahahah it's mine and I get to keep it, screw everyone else! I personally disagree with such a attitude but, I'd rather not this digress into a debate about ethical treatment of other players.

I'll just say, things shouldn't be as they are.

[TheVedis]

I agree. Very good. However, I suppose any talk of values or knowing how to ask politely or be generous has no place then? The very concept of "Random Party = no rules, whoever gets it, gets it, end of story" seems to be a function of the issue of self-centered gameplay.

If I'm playing and I get a drop then Brwhahsdahhahahah it's mine and I get to keep it, screw everyone else! I personally disagree with such a attitude but, I'd rather not this digress into a debate about ethical treatment of other players.

I'll just say, things shouldn't be as they are.

I hate to inform you, but it sounds like more of an issue of self intitlement at this point.

When you recruit people and tell them nothing other then that its for a leve(or faction level in this case) you arent telling them anything other then you need help.
You dont tell them you are doing it for the drop, you dont tell them you are doing it for anything specific.
So when the drop does come, do you really have a right to tell anyone who it should go to? Of course not, these are random people, they are helping you complete a leve, not "get a drop" because thats not what you asked them to do.

Its all a simple case of stating what you are doing ahead of time, and setting some ground rules.

You can not blame other players for a lack of ground rules on the part of the person running the leve. And you can not blame a player for wanting to keep a drop that rightfuly belongs to him cuz it was given to him by the loot system, especialy given he wasnt told the leve was being done for the drop to the person running it.

[Ventus]

I agree. Very good. However, I suppose any talk of values or knowing how to ask politely or be generous has no place then? The very concept of "Random Party = no rules, whoever gets it, gets it, end of story" seems to be a function of the issue of self-centered gameplay.

If I'm playing and I get a drop then Brwhahsdahhahahah it's mine and I get to keep it, screw everyone else! I personally disagree with such a attitude but, I'd rather not this digress into a debate about ethical treatment of other players.

I'll just say, things shouldn't be as they are.

This is where I coming from guys. It's uneccesary to insult OP and call them a "crybaby", "whiner", etc. trashy attitudes like that are uncalled for. I was frustrated over a topic and was looking for advice not several posters to make rude insults. There's a better way to state your point if you're in disagreement on something...

[Kilta_Firelotus]

This is where I coming from guys. It's uneccesary to insult OP and call them a "crybaby", "whiner", etc. trashy attitudes like that are uncalled for. I was frustrated over a topic and was looking for advice not several posters to make rude insults. There's a better way to state your point if you're in disagreement on something...

sorry but question yourself why talks for 30 mins about a video game item that someone just got they you wanted? I would be so very much annoyed and wonder if I'm playing with a child.

[Vix]

sorry but question yourself why talks for 30 mins about a video game item that someone just got they you wanted? I would be so very much annoyed and wonder if I'm playing with a child.

Exactly. I clicked on this thinking it would be something legit; not a little kid crying because they didn't get their way after badgering someone like they do at the grocery store with mommy for a box of cereal. It was a fair drop, and nobody would ever give away a lump of gil to a stranger...especially if that stranger was being a punk about it.