A new NM to pay homage to Tanaka

[Abriael]

Nah it's just natural to blame the leader when something good or bad happens. That's part of the risk of choosing to lead something. You gain all of the glory and whatever hate thats left. Too bad for him he had only hate.

Pointing fingers without knowing the facts is never a good idea, unless one wants to be associated with the usual ignorant lynchmob of course.

[Zenaku]

Nah it's just natural to blame the leader when something good or bad happens. That's part of the risk of choosing to lead something. You gain all of the glory and whatever hate thats left. Too bad for him he had only hate.


lmao good one.

This is true but he not really the leader sure he lead the team but it was not his idea to release the game like that. His view of ffxiv needed at least 1 more year of work which he did not have.

[Akumu]

Pointing fingers without knowing the facts is never a good idea, unless one wants to be associated with the usual ignorant lynchmob of course.

I agree with you. It's not something I intentionally do but as you said "the usual ignorant lynchmob" does. I don't know what happened and i'm sure it wasn't just Tanaka or even if he had anything to do with the mess that was released. For all I know he could have asked for more time but was denied. Since i'm not apart of that business it would only be speculation on my part.

So I never point fingers and blame one man for the entirety of anything except himself(especially something as complex as a business). I just know if I was a leader and failed to meet expectations of the public my career would be shattered. That's why I said it's only natural.

[Vanguard319]

I can see it now, the Tanaka NM literally becoming the Absolute Virtue or Yiazmat of FFXIV, has 1 trillion HP, and takes five 15-man parties an entire week to defeat, oh yeah, all his attacks have huge AoE and always inflict Imperil, Poison, and Paralysis. Also when down to 25% health, his attacks increase in speed to hundred fists proportions. X3

Ok, I'm kidding, I don't even resent the guy, but I think giving him credit where its due isn't wrong either.

[kukurumei]

So I never point fingers and blame one man for the entirety of anything except himself(especially something as complex as a business). I just know if I was a leader and failed to meet expectations of the public my career would be shattered. That's why I said it's only natural.

Nothing to do with tanaka...but are you mad...after how many economic melt downs after how many movies, after just how much money and resources is invested?

Don't sit on the managers job ordering people with a good paycheck if you don't want to take the blame yourself for your position.

Tanaka was the person in charge of the project. He was suppose to manage things. Thats what his paycheck does, that's why SE hired him and fired him. He wasn't there to have lunch and hi-five people.

Don't go, "the kid walked out the window himself, it's not my problem.". That kind of attitude that disgusts me. Whatever the producer of FF14 did or didn't do, he was the producer.

We can and should make fun of him.

[Peregrine]

Tanaka was thrown under the bus with this project. His only faults as a producer is that his people skills are a bit cold and comes off as an angry dragon who is not amused by all your bull**** up in his domain. He's the kind of guy who will tell you to shut up and listen if you need to shut up and listen. He's one of the few people left at Square Enix who knows what it feels like to make a timeless masterpiece.

He's also the guy who has too much pride and confidence in his ability to put blame where it's really due. The team was way too small. The money was way too inadequate. The schedule was way too tight. Yoichi Wada is not that great a boss.

Tanaka's my boy. Yall can't be making fun up in here like this.

His NM is a great Dragon, and it kicks your ass and takes names.

[whoopeeragon]

Tanaka was the person in charge of the project. He was suppose to manage things. Thats what his paycheck does, that's why SE hired him and fired him. He wasn't there to have lunch and hi-five people.

For the bloody last time, Tanaka DID NOT GET FIRED!!!!! HE IS STILL PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM, BUT NOT AS HIGH AS HE WAS BEFORE!!!! NO-ONE GOT FIRED FROM THE FIRST DEVELOPMENT TEAM, THEY MERELY TOOK UP OTHER POSITIONS IN THE LATER ONE!!!!!

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Tanaka the Doblyn....That will be an awesome addition. -likes-

[gifthorse]

Tanaka was thrown under the bus with this project. His only faults as a producer is that his people skills are a bit cold and comes off as an angry dragon who is not amused by all your bull**** up in his domain. He's the kind of guy who will tell you to shut up and listen if you need to shut up and listen. He's one of the few people left at Square Enix who knows what it feels like to make a timeless masterpiece.

He's also the guy who has too much pride and confidence in his ability to put blame where it's really due. The team was way too small. The money was way too inadequate. The schedule was way too tight. Yoichi Wada is not that great a boss.

Tanaka's my boy. Yall can't be making fun up in here like this.

His NM is a great Dragon, and it kicks your ass and takes names.

Yeah, my snide remark earlier about Tanaka was mostly in jest. Tanaka isn't perfect, but the reason I even played FFXIV in the first place was because I liked the promises Tanaka made and the general concept for the game.

Wish I could say the same about Yoshi's "Let's make this into WoW/FFXI" attitude.

I think if they put Tanaka in the game, he better be on a pedestal, with an army of obese, hedonistic male mi'qote servants protecting him.

[Vanguard319]

Nothing to do with tanaka...but are you mad...after how many economic melt downs after how many movies, after just how much money and resources is invested?

Don't sit on the managers job ordering people with a good paycheck if you don't want to take the blame yourself for your position.

Tanaka was the person in charge of the project. He was suppose to manage things. Thats what his paycheck does, that's why SE hired him and fired him. He wasn't there to have lunch and hi-five people.

Don't go, "the kid walked out the window himself, it's not my problem.". That kind of attitude that disgusts me. Whatever the producer of FF14 did or didn't do, he was the producer.

We can and should make fun of him.

This is true, and you make a very good point:

A leader should always be prepared to be held accountable for everything they may say or do while they hold that status. The Spartans literally put thier kings on trial at the end of their terms, and the Chinese had the Mandate of Heaven, which made rebellion against the emporer justified as long as the rebellion succeeded. Nowadays, we have incompetent leaders who take their power for granted and abuse their authority with total disregard for the consequences. Despite this, there are always people who defend the poor choices made by these leaders.

Look at the revolts in the Middle East, or even the Tea Party Movement in the US, whether you sympathize with, or openly mock them, the people involved with both are enraged at what they see as their leaders making really bad choices, and not being held responible for their actions. In the end, someone has to hang because people demand closure, and words alone aren't always enough.

In Tanaka's case, he had a responsibility to keep production moving smootly, while meeting a budget and timetable, and had to work with a limited pool of resources. He was not able to keep to the limits imposed by his boss, and so he took responsibility for the current status of the game, and stepped down. I can respect the guy for admitting the task was too big, rather than make like John Romero during the development of Daikatana and continue to promise amazing content, while producing very little.

[Natabant]

I think if they put Tanaka in the game, he better be on a pedestal, with an army of obese, hedonistic male mi'qote servants protecting him.

oh god.... would he look like jabba and have all the obese male miqote chained up wearing princess leia outfits?