Of the Properties of Beastmen

[Dokter]

Btw I had not done Hrysmill battle yet but....

At level 2 does

Sazol Ciloc the Divine appear?

There's an achievement specific to him (and 2 others for the other 2 hamlets) and I checked one person I know had beat Hrysmill hamlet and does not have this achievement.

IF that is the case I bet these "seals" only drop off these 3 NMs which are activated by....? Level 5 hamlet? Which isn't possible atm.


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O wierd I asked someone else and they said it does but they dont have achievement listed on lodestone either or I am just blind xD

He spawns at level 2^^
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gkbm3VrAnKA

[HiirNoivl]

It is not hard but it requires omgwork and omgtime.

But I'm going to get it today because I took the omgtime and did the omgwork.

[Biggs]

This game me an interesting idea that popped into my head to help assist with pickup groups.

For 2.0 it would be neat if perhaps players could be given a "Strategy guide" that they could set to Private, specific players, or party. When leader makes the pickup group rather then having to go through the tedious experience of explaining it they could tell the member to take a look at their "Strategy Guide" under the -Garuda Strategy- and basically it would be a write up of their own doing which could explain each classes role and what to keep an eye on during the battle. That way when a pickup party is being formed, while people are waiting they can read up on the person's guide so they know what to do rather then go in blindly or have it explained in long detail before starting. At the same time it would save others the trouble of having to search the web if they happen to be playing on full screen or ps3 when it comes out.

Man that would be sweet. Sadly it will have to go on the already ginormous list of things 2.0 SHOULD bring us but sadly won't. That list gets a little bigger each day man

[Req]

This is starting to make it feel like the old development team is back in charge. There is no steady way to earn seals other than farming totorak which is incredibly boring and incredibly tedious. 10 dollars says the next step in upgrading these weapons is going to be killing 100,000 enemies with them.

Tedious =/= Challenging
Tedious =/= Fun

We are paying a monthly fee to have fun, not to have a second job.

[TheVedis]

This is starting to make it feel like the old development team is back in charge. There is no steady way to earn seals other than farming totorak which is incredibly boring and incredibly tedious. 10 dollars says the next step in upgrading these weapons is going to be killing 100,000 enemies with them.

Tedious =/= Challenging
Tedious =/= Fun

We are paying a monthly fee to have fun, not to have a second job.

nothing says you have to complete it in 1 day, therefore it isnt a second job

different people will put different ammounts of time into something, and they will earn things faster based on how much time they put into it

[Req]

nothing says you have to complete it in 1 day, therefore it isnt a second job

different people will put different ammounts of time into something, and they will earn things faster based on how much time they put into it

Yes but there has to be a steady amount of time put into this over all. With totorak you are going to get around 3000 seals an hour, if you have one character getting all the items. That is still investing 8+ hours of time into getting this. With 2 people that time will double to 16+ hours of time doing totorak. Can you honestly tell me that doing that for 16+ hours over the course of any length of time is fun? Its basically just walking from point A to point B over and over again.

[Chardrizard]

This is starting to make it feel like the old development team is back in charge. There is no steady way to earn seals other than farming totorak which is incredibly boring and incredibly tedious. 10 dollars says the next step in upgrading these weapons is going to be killing 100,000 enemies with them.

Tedious =/= Challenging
Tedious =/= Fun

We are paying a monthly fee to have fun, not to have a second job.

You can 4 man dzemael if you want challenge. They net you the same seals if not more.

[TheVedis]

Yes but there has to be a steady amount of time put into this over all. With totorak you are going to get around 3000 seals an hour, if you have one character getting all the items. That is still investing 8+ hours of time into getting this. With 2 people that time will double to 16+ hours of time doing totorak. Can you honestly tell me that doing that for 16+ hours over the course of any length of time is fun? Its basically just walking from point A to point B over and over again.

16 hours isnt as much as you make t out to be

16 hours, over the course of a month lets say, thats 1 hour every other day....think about that, dont try to rush it and it wont feel as bad

[Sephrick]

16 hours isnt as much as you make t out to be

16 hours, over the course of a month lets say, thats 1 hour every other day....think about that, dont try to rush it and it wont feel as bad

I have to agree with this. 16 hours is a lot if you're going to try and knock it out in one sitting -- even though there are some out there who wouldn't bat an eyelash at the thought.

But broken up, it's not that bad. If you do just three hours a week it'll only take six weeks. The rest of the time can be spent contributing to Hamlet Defense ratings and farming those Primal Seals.

This is the kind of content the game needs. Stuff that takes a while but also has steady progression. You're as close to this as you choose to be.

[TheVedis]

I have to agree with this. 16 hours is a lot if you're going to try and knock it out in one sitting -- even though there are some out there who wouldn't bat an eyelash at the thought.

But broken up, it's not that bad. If you do just three hours a week it'll only take six weeks. The rest of the time can be spent contributing to Hamlet Defense ratings and farming those Primal Seals.

This is the kind of content the game needs. Stuff that takes a while but also has steady progression. You're as close to this as you choose to be.

exactly, now if it was like 100 hours. then i could see the problem with it, but 16 hours is a small ammount of time in comparison to some of the other grindish things it coulda been turned into