Beastnaster feedback post-release

[Carighan]

You barely even engaged with the job and went straight to using AI to try to solve it for you
what am i even reading, i think humanity might be cooked.

Yeah I thought the same thing. I remember reading that they by now have quantitative studies that show this "loss of reasoning"-effect from using AI regularly for adults too, and reading stuff like this I believe it. It's a bigger issue for kids of course - who will never learn to reason their own solutions to problems in the first place and hence can't ever do it - but it seems too many adults get so used to asking an LLM that their brains always use this as the go-to solution to any problem they face.

This does not bode well for the new Prof Layton game, tbh. xD I bet people will just feed controls fully to ChatGPT and ask it to play the game for them.

[hydralus]

I know a lot of work was put into it but the whole thing feels needlessly complex and overwrought. With BLU's extra content I can grasp it a bit more readily.

What's the difference between crucible and masked carnival?

[Caesitas]

I guess i don't blame people for struggling doing dungeons as beastmaster because the game has stripped out or trained you to ignore applying debuffs to bosses but most of the ARR bosses can be stunned or heavied or something (except that annoying fire sprite in halatali i guess) Some of the skills are traps like the 5% bloodbath that comes from a beast the quests directly tell you to tame. With a little bit of problem solving most of the dungeons can be soloed and you can even test things in most of them by pulling the boss to the arena exit using the skill you want to test and then resetting them, as long as your beast is outside the arena with you it wont be unsummoned and go on cooldown so you can swap it around out of combat to reset all your cooldowns and go back to testing.


With just a little work why you too could... miss the tame on the chimera and need to run the dungeon again!

[Videra]

We are now, officially, at two class concepts that I would have loved to play in actual content being relegated to underfunded sideshow. Sigh.

[Aco505]

My feedback after leveling to 50 before doing more Crucible proper:

1. Why can't we do dungeons and other content with at least one of our beasts tanking or healing as a proper party member similar to the chocobo (and especially like its overhaul in Evercold)?

2. Why can't Limited Jobs have a Reborn Mode (what they are now, limited) and an Evolved Mode (becoming proper jobs)? BST plays very similarly to a normal job, just with higher options due to pet choice. It even syncs down in FATEs, dungeons and all! Why though? It should be like BLU in that regard when it comes to actions.

3. We need to be able to save beast horn loadouts for when we play outside of the Crucible. Been leveling mostly by doing dungeons and you want certain pets for trash mobs and certain pets for bosses. Having to change all the time without loadouts similar to BLU's is annoying.

4. Role actions should be available outside of the Crucible. Or at least Second Wind and Bloodbath. Otherwise, soloing content like dungeons becomes much harder compared to BLU, since bosses just murder you with autos and they can't all be doomed or CC'd.

5. It feels like several beasts are outclassed by others. Of course, the nature of the Crucible means that some underlooked pets might shine in certain encounters but a beast obtained at level 50 should not be a direct upgrade over a lower level one. Most if not all should retain some kind of uniqueness or niche.

6. Pets should dash or teleport with us when we use Shield Charge, at least when initiating combat. They often get left behind when we jump into a distant enemy.

7. Borrow feels like an out-of-place action with the way it's currently implemented. Its main use is to prepare it before the pull and then finish the fight in 90s unless you need to keep it for something important like an interrupt or to keep Quelling Wave to kite. It feels like Borrow should just be assigned out of combat (like V&C duty actions for instance) so that you keep the skill of one beast family at all times, since Tempered Release is the preferred use of One with Nature most of the time. Also, the scalekin action seems quite weak compared to the other options, so it could do with a CD reduction, perhaps.

8. Lingering Vantage is an underwhelming trait. Why add a buff that increases the potency of Parting Blow when you want to use it to change pets in combat anyway? I thought it'd give us something like a 10-15s buff or effect based on family or beast type (could be another way of developing pet niches or strengths) after using Parting Blow or perhaps a second stack of One with Nature if certain conditions are met. I feel like things could be much more creative with this specific trait.

9. Seeing everyone with pets out in the world and cities is refreshing. Just like hunter in WoW! If some people are bothered by this, then just add a toggle to hide pets outside of combat and/or duties.

10. I hope we can get more tameables and skins in the future. As others have pointed out in this thread or this one, it's sad that specific beasts like jackals or ladybugs got left out.

11. I am surprised we do not have a pet with some kind of stealth action. Perhaps we'll get one in a future update?

12. It'd be good to be able to do the Crucible as a duo instead of exclusively solo.

[VeyaAkemi]

With just a little work why you too could... miss the tame on the chimera and need to run the dungeon again!

FYI, if you have done the early bits of the ARR relic, you can tame the Chimera in the trial, it is also valid and you can easily get a buddy to Tank it for you unsync, shouldn't take more than a couple tries, plus, you need the Hydra from the other ARR relic trial anyway, so it's not like you won't have it unlocked.

The only really annoying pet to get is the Behemoth and only because you need at least 12 people to unsync LOTA, and if you do with the bare minimum, you need everyone to behave on the Atomos sequence, but it is still plenty doable.

[Moqi]

I do not understand why our 3 part combo needs to be on 3 separate buttons still. It's not getting an Evolved mode so what is the point? Stick to single button like every other job will get.

There needs to be some more visual clarity for borrow and horns buttons. Borrow and trick should have similar visual tells to quickly look at what skill you'll be borrowing and the horns need to change into whatever beast you have selected for that horn.

Overall the job is fun and they clearly put more effort into it than BLU ever did. Crucible is a lot to take in, I don't know if I have the patience to keep up but that's the problem I always have with these types of games. Not a huge fan of the cover action tbh. I haven't reached 50 yet but I hope there's a way to train beasts outside the crucible.

[Carighan]

I do not understand why our 3 part combo needs to be on 3 separate buttons still. It's not getting an Evolved mode so what is the point? Stick to single button like every other job will get.

Yeah that was so weird to see.

Do I ever want to press 1->3? 3->1->2? 2->3 directly, without 1? No? It's factually just a single button already, just needlessly taking up three hotbar spaces.

It seems the PvP guy at SQEX accidentally left whoever did the old class design out of the cupboard, and they immediately got to work wasting everybody's UI and hotbar space again.

[Ilisidi]

I prefer pressing 3 buttons instead of one if its three different attacks. Hammering the same button over and over is painful and I can't see where in the combo I am and therefore should apply the buff.

[Doki]

This took THREE YEARS to release... and outside of a mindless grind in Crucible there's nothing to even do with after a single day of leveling and collecting pets. What a waste.