Moogle First Hunt for Astronomy

[Aidorouge]

So, this may be harsh, but there is a threshold where it becomes a you issue. If you have access to everything you need to do the thing, and you are unwilling to even try, or at least deal with it for 15 minutes because that's how long it takes, then it's on you, not the game.

Nah, it's definitely on the game when the thing in question is just awful to do because the developers didn't care to make it fun, or even tolerable, to deal with. At that point its just a list of digital chores, and not really a "game".

Again, I can just wait until next week and hope RNG won't suck as much, instead of being forced to engage with stuff that "wasn't meant for me" anyway.

[hydralus]

Nah, it's definitely on the game when the thing in question is just awful to do because the developers didn't care to make it fun, or even tolerable, to deal with. At that point its just a list of digital chores, and not really a "game".

Again, I can just wait until next week and hope RNG won't suck as much, instead of being forced to engage with stuff that "wasn't meant for me" anyway.

What do you find fun that's in the game?

[Jaltaer]

What do you find fun that's in the game?

Going off their previous posts across the forum? Literally nothing.

[Gwenkatsu]

The level of difficulty isn't the issue, I just don't care about Big Fishing, especially when past experience has left me stuck trying to catch something for days because of RNG. Odds are incredibly good I'll end up spending the whole week out there and never catch it anyway, so I'd rather not waste my time.

It's like how the Bozja alternative wants me to go off and do 5 skirmishes, which could be the easiest thing in the world to do, and I actually have access to Bozja unlike Aloalo, but you couldn't pay me enough to step into another Field Operation after how much I hated Eureka.

I have to agree on the fishing thing, especially after the demiatma RNG fiasco in OC. It was my first field operation, and the experience was absolutely devastating. I swore I'd never bother with field operations again.
But: I did the 5 fates in Bozja yesterday, and it was done in a couple of minutes. The map is very small, you can avoid the mobs easily, and fates show up even on the parts of the map you have not opened up yet. Use a tank class for additional safety. And even if you should die, you lose nothing, as you're just level 1 anyway.
So as a fellow hater of field operations I can assure you that it took no more effort than doing 5 fates somewhere else

My biggest gripe is that I always used the mogtome events to farm some nice stuff for my alt characters. Guess how many of my alts have done the Ivalice raid series? 0. Guess how many of my alts will partake in this bozja-only event? Exactly the same number. Not that I lose out on anything, as the rewards this time are bs anyway - except the FOMO mount of course :/

[Carighan]

To get the 5 tokens from the Ultimog, I am forced to run a Variant Dungeon 6 times. I personally really dislike Variant Dungeons. In the past, I could just gather tomes by doing roulettes, PvP, or whatever I felt like doing. Now, if I want the new Uolon mount, I have to force myself through content I actively want to avoid, plus rely on the RNG of the weekly Minimog not giving me a challenge that blocks my progress. This completely kills the relaxed nature of the event.

An event meant to encourage players to do content more they might not be doing much or at all otherwise is apparently telling players to do just that. Design intent finally hit after plenty iterations, then?

Tell me, how is it not relaxed to not get the mount? Do your other 952 mounts feel lonely because they're only 952, not 953? You can just... not get a mount. In fact no, the event itself offers more mounts than one. It's almost like it offers variety, so players can do what they enjoy or don't enjoy, and get rewards that work for them and ignore those that don't work for them.

To compare with previous iterations of this event, that mount is on top. They added something extra because players had been asking for more stuff to do, so they added a slightly more higher end goal to the same event. All existing rewards are as-before. Nothing is lost.

[Pricia]

An event meant to encourage players to do content more they might not be doing much or at all otherwise is apparently telling players to do just that. Design intent finally hit after plenty iterations, then?

Tell me, how is it not relaxed to not get the mount? Do your other 952 mounts feel lonely because they're only 952, not 953? You can just... not get a mount. In fact no, the event itself offers more mounts than one. It's almost like it offers variety, so players can do what they enjoy or don't enjoy, and get rewards that work for them and ignore those that don't work for them.

To compare with previous iterations of this event, that mount is on top. They added something extra because players had been asking for more stuff to do, so they added a slightly more higher end goal to the same event. All existing rewards are as-before. Nothing is lost.

This is a ridiculous take. Making a seasonal event that offers a reward that caters to higher level players only is just horrible design.

Also, we're getting way fewer rewards this time, as it's been mentioned several times in this thread. So no, it's not "on top," it's "instead of."

[ThreeBeastSmile]

The level of difficulty isn't the issue, I just don't care about Big Fishing, especially when past experience has left me stuck trying to catch something for days because of RNG. Odds are incredibly good I'll end up spending the whole week out there and never catch it anyway, so I'd rather not waste my time.

I know your gripe lies with the broader sense of tedium involved in the tasks, but for the fishing one... bait with Moth Pupa, Surface Slap any of the duds it can be (except Princess Trout), then I thought to use Ambitious Lure because all the fish the bait attracts are small, and whether by luck or that it worked, I got it in the very next cast after. It was the fifth attempt. Should be easy right? That was like the easiest ever. I don't even remember how to fish lol.

[VeyaAkemi]

Fishing is very simple if you are level 100, the Lure skills are super good and do a lot to reduce the pool of possible fish you can reel in, and while there is a degree of RNG involved still, that RNG is never an issue if the fish doesn't have a limited window, the most tedium there can be is waiting out GP to regen, and I just tab out for a few moments if I need to wait it out.

In general other than very dumb, limited time fish that has a 5 minute window every other 3rd Tuesday of the month, fishing is extremely simple, again, GP is the only stopgap.

[Veritas-Ancora]

This is a ridiculous take. Making a seasonal event that offers a reward that caters to higher level players only is just horrible design.

Perhaps a player not at cap level should be focusing on getting through the story instead?

It's not a ridiculous take. The people at the top, like you and me, need more stuff to do to keep our subscriptions going. That's the intended audience.

[Daralii]

Perhaps a player not at cap level should be focusing on getting through the story instead?

It's not a ridiculous take. The people at the top, like you and me, need more stuff to do to keep our subscriptions going. That's the intended audience.

So why do they always bloat the reward pool with things from content that we've been able to easily farm solo for multiple expansions?