Final phantom relic feedback

[Aco505]

There are two things about the final version of the phantom relics I would like to give feedback on:

1. The stats on the relic cannot be adjusted in the same way that the resistance weapons in Shadowbringers were.

In both EW and now DT, we are only given the option to maximize two stats and then choose a third smaller stat. We should be able to choose the specific number amount for the stats from a total point pool, like in ShB.

Having this option would allow the relic to be used in many types of content, including crafting new BiS sets for older Ultimates.

2. The relic has no special effect in the Occult Crescent.

The Eureka weapons provided additional power within Eureka and the fact that the phantom weapons do not have some kind of boost in OC is a missed opportunity. Such boost could have been something like 15% haste to spice up rotations for those willing to play the game a bit differently than normal instead of an expected +5 special attribute boost.

[IcarusAvery]

If they went #2, I would really hope you could either choose what buff you want or potentially even turn off the buff. 15% Haste sounds great for some jobs, I'm sure, but I feel nothing but dread over the idea of, say, a dragoon relic imposing a 15% faster GCD. As a DRG main, that would make the phantom relic literally worst-in-slot for Occult Crescent.

[OdrN]

Why the hell the third step can't be done in OC? Like not even a possibility.
This is the freaking patch content!

[Absurdity]

Why the hell the third step can't be done in OC? Like not even a possibility.
This is the freaking patch content!

The optimistic opinion is that the step harkens back to the ARR relic quest that sends you all over the world to complete a bunch of different activities.

My cynical opinion is that all steps forcing you out of OC were done to stretch out content runtime.

[Ultran]

I am also very confused that the last step has to be fully done outside of OC. Not even an option to do it in Forked Tower or anything else.

[TeresaFortell]

Why the hell the third step can't be done in OC? Like not even a possibility.
This is the freaking patch content!

Sometimes I also question their design choices.

[StriderShinryu]

i don't really see any issue with not being able to do the Dawntrail Tour step inside OC. I appreciate the thematic element to it, and it's fairly easy and quick to accomplish (though that will change in the future when the content is no longer current).

What I don't see the point of, however, is not being able to continue to collect Dispellers (or some sort of equivalent pickup) in North Horn after you have completed that step for the weapon. You should be able to continue collecting Dispellers and then trade the extras in for the top tier of Arcanite (just as you should have been able to do with Atmas in the South Horn). Even if the acquisition rate per Arcanite was technically slower than collecting Tomestones outside of OC, it would encourage players staying in North Horn to finish out more Phantom Jobs, max their Knowledge Level, do Forked Tower, etc. because they'd be able to progress on multiple tracks at once. As things stand right now, I finished my Dispeller step at around Knowledge Level 28 or so and so I'm basically forced to choose to either collect more Relics outside of OC or stay in OC for the last 12 KL worth of progress with the only real goal being to get to cap so I can do Forked Tower. It's just a feels bad moment when they could have just let you keep collecting Relic Weapon material in OC itself instead.

As for the stat reallocation. It does feel a little odd to not have more freedom. I get that the freedom would be mostly pointless for a lot of players but that doesn't mean you should just remove it entirely. And, yeah, having the weapons give some sort of side bonus for OC would have been a nice plus too.

[VeyaAkemi]

I've started wondering if the absence of fully selectable stats is precisely to minimize the impact on Ultimates, anyone familiar with how the sync system works, stats aren't sync'd down linearly based on item level, but rather based on a limit that each stat can possibly have, so it would be a simple matter to figure out what the exact limits for, say, TEA are, and specifically build a relic that has 4 capped out substats.

[Asari5]

we have to do ALL the content from DT in the last step. including optional dungeons, a-raids and normal raids which are basically optional (there are probably people who need to unlock them just for the relic.)
including fates and overworld enemies.... but what about oc? i guess thats no DT content xD

[Garruss]

I'm just glad you can do the whole thing out of OC.