Relics

[RenkoBernkastel]

The issue I have with crafting requirements for a combat relic is when new people or alt characters a couple of expansions down the line struggle to get the relic if they don't craft because nobody is selling the parts anymore.

If it's an alt character, just sell it to yourself or trade through the FC chest or whatever is available to you. "New people" are still going to be hundreds of hours into the game by the time they unlock the ability to even get to this relic, so they're not really going to be new anymore by that point. If they MSQ skip, tough luck I guess. But even then, "a couple expansions down the line" also means that NPC crafting gear from that expansion is going to be all you need to craft those items.


Edit: I don't even craft, but having my crafters at max level sometimes comes in handy and getting them there is annoying at most, but not hard by any means. Doesn't take long either, so I really don't think crafting some items for what is going to be a cosmetic in 8.0 is too much to ask.
Edit 2: Also OP is just weird with complaining about the current step, when every step was like this. I checked prices 12 hours after this post was made and everything was sitting at 70k. Today a friend of mine bought the items for 35k-43k each on Spriggan, which is the most expensive MB on Chaos. That's roulette money. If you don't have roulette money, you're beyond help.

[TeresaFortell]

I'm not exactly sure why they put this as a step towards relic weapons. In this regard, one has to either have their crafting job level to craft the required items or purchase them from marketboards. It seems to be a deliberate wall against those who have yet to level their crafting jobs, and demands that they involve themselves with either the existing market or work on their relevant crafting jobs.

[Kirutsuki]

I'm not exactly sure why they put this as a step towards relic weapons. In this regard, one has to either have their crafting job level to craft the required items or purchase them from marketboards. It seems to be a deliberate wall against those who have yet to level their crafting jobs, and demands that they involve themselves with either the existing market or work on their relevant crafting jobs.

Think it's just a gil sink, theyve said as much if I recall correctly that they know people have a lot of money they just aren't using for anything.
and those that DO use money alot probably have plenty of knowledge of how to get more if needed. Gil sinks in MMO's just feel a bit artificial and aren't all that interesting, but that's pretty much an every mmo issue.

[Nero-Voidstails]

But you either:
1. Sucked it up and crafted the previous step, which is unlikely if you were surprised by it now
2. Bought the previous step, which is unlikely if you didn't know the price drops to 100k five minutes into the patch
3. Didn't do the previous step and shouldn't be worried about this one

hello there White Knight that think the game is perfect

[Tint]

Think it's just a gil sink, theyve said as much if I recall correctly that they know people have a lot of money they just aren't using for anything.
and those that DO use money alot probably have plenty of knowledge of how to get more if needed. Gil sinks in MMO's just feel a bit artificial and aren't all that interesting, but that's pretty much an every mmo issue.

While yes, there are market board taxes, it is mostly just a Gil transfer from one player to another, not a Gil sink. The items you have to buy from the NPC are a Gil sink.

[VictorSpoils]

hello there White Knight that think the game is perfect

Man...and that's just after getting accused of being a detractor in the FF7 thread.

[jomas_45]

Try a trade. There are plenry of crafters who want to get into raiding. Or relics. "If you craft for me, I'll spend an hour helping you with trial/crescent/whatever".

[jomas_45]

Or if that feels too much "I'll be your dictionary while you go thru <raiding site>"

[jomas_45]

Anyway, you probably pay someone for crafted gear at the start of every raid tier, so it's not unreasonable to think that you have access to someone who crafts, even if it is just thru the marketboard.

[Nero-Voidstails]

Anyway, you probably pay someone for crafted gear at the start of every raid tier, so it's not unreasonable to think that you have access to someone who crafts, even if it is just thru the marketboard.

nope I was on a year break when the new gear released and I came back when it could be upgraded most of my job have enough ilv to do everything except my healers