Relics

[0blivion]

I do know from the testing I did, I needed at least 5620, 5080, and 631 CP to guarantee results on the crafts. CP is usually the more important stat... Granted, it did need food, but it's more than easily reachable without needing to worry about going for max melds.

Plus, if you are willing to use a site like Raphael, you can just plug your stats in, state the craft and it will solve the craft for you.

Edit: I don't think it's a bad precedent... But I will say if they are intending to go down the path of integrating crafting into the combat relic, then I do think scrip gear needs to be scaled better.

I kind of had to waste the meld slots to meet the minimum requirements, but I might genuinely try to engage with one of the magical sites. Frankly, I'd be less annoyed by this if scrip gear scaled better, or even at all, lol. That said, considering I'm trying to make the housing item happen, I will have to go back to craft anyway, so I'll tty and see if that helps. I don't think I'll ever be a fan of this because they clearly overshot the goal, but it is what it is.

[Nero-Voidstails]

I still love the fact people doesn't disagree with the facts that crafting is boring tho I)

[Kaurhz]

I kind of had to waste the meld slots to meet the minimum requirements, but I might genuinely try to engage with one of the magical sites. Frankly, I'd be less annoyed by this if scrip gear scaled better, or even at all, lol. That said, considering I'm trying to make the housing item happen, I will have to go back to craft anyway, so I'll tty and see if that helps. I don't think I'll ever be a fan of this because they clearly overshot the goal, but it is what it is.

I strongly recommend, honestly.. It will spit better results out at you than what you'll get anywhere else, to be honest.

Scrip has a lot of issues, sadly... Ideally left-side should have 3 slots, and right-side should have 2 slots, to at least match the slot of first advanced melding. I would generally recommend accessories you get the crafted version of... Just because CP is king, and even really budget melds will outclass scrip.

[Haru304]

It's to give people who do craft something to do.

If you don't want to craft, you said so yourself, you can buy it. You make ample gil with regular play. There are very few gil sinks in this game.

[Nero-Voidstails]

It's to give people who do craft something to do.

If you don't want to craft, you said so yourself, you can buy it. You make ample gil with regular play. There are very few gil sinks in this game.

well my problem is not exactly the crafting item but well the crafting I well think the crafting minigame is well horrible at best. most crafter you do meet use macro while watching YouTube or well anything else really. I do think crafting need to be well better over all

[Pricia]

well my problem is not exactly the crafting item but well the crafting I well think the crafting minigame is well horrible at best. most crafter you do meet use macro while watching YouTube or well anything else really. I do think crafting need to be well better over all

Ok but when you have to craft hundreds of items, nobody wants it to be a "fun mini game." It stops being fun after 5 minutes.

[Kaurhz]

well my problem is not exactly the crafting item but well the crafting I well think the crafting minigame is well horrible at best. most crafter you do meet use macro while watching YouTube or well anything else really. I do think crafting need to be well better over all

I do agree with this.

The unfortunate circumstance, however, is that like everything they balance the 'content' around people that don't actually want to do the content, and will instead prefer that people only enjoy it for convenience sake, and not because it's actually... Fun.

The 'mini-game' behind it used to be really fun, but then they started with this bizarre mentality of "We want people to figure it out for themselves so we're going to balance it around the lowest possible denominator, despite the fact they are still going to use guides anyway"

[Nero-Voidstails]

I do agree with this.

The unfortunate circumstance, however, is that like everything they balance the 'content' around people that don't actually want to do the content, and will instead prefer that people only enjoy it for convenience sake, and not because it's actually... Fun.

The 'mini-game' behind it used to be really fun, but then they started with this bizarre mentality of "We want people to figure it out for themselves so we're going to balance it around the lowest possible denominator, despite the fact they are still going to use guides anyway"

ya I heard that before it was better like I don't say turn off the mini game but have something more interesting. we also all know that RNG base thing are so fair

[VictorSpoils]

I still love the fact people doesn't disagree with the facts that crafting is boring tho I)

But you either:
1. Sucked it up and crafted the previous step, which is unlikely if you were surprised by it now
2. Bought the previous step, which is unlikely if you didn't know the price drops to 100k five minutes into the patch
3. Didn't do the previous step and shouldn't be worried about this one

[Alice_Rivers]

The issue I have with crafting requirements for a combat relic is when new people or alt characters a couple of expansions down the line struggle to get the relic if they don't craft because nobody is selling the parts anymore.