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    Quote Originally Posted by Arwen2 View Post
    Again, all outlying studies that do not account for the many children/teens lives that have been saved. I don’t ignore the cases where certain people have complications, but I also acknowledge that there are so many other studies that prove that with proper care, a long happy life can be lived. And I bring up happiness as a relevant topic because when we all act and speak like human beings, we can see the difference in a happy person versus a sad person and the enormous difference in can make on health. It is a straw man argument when I am advocating for an environment where children can be their true selves and you say that it is equivalent to forcing a child to transition because they like a specific gendered toy. Fostering vs grooming/manipulation are very different things, I’m sure most people can understand that. Your basis is coming from extreme cases, which alienates a large chunk of real people with real experiences. Telling someone they are either this or that and nothing else is a slippery slope and we all know where that type of thinking leads to.
    SOME being "saved" is irrelevant when MOST suffer. These are studies done by the most liberal universities in America. The goal is to focus on the positive results and they struggle to find enough to publish their works. The idea that a child will self-harm because they're not allowed to transition is completely unfounded by any research. The only research we have is that children, and adults, are MORE likely to self-harm the further into the processes they are.

    There are no studies proving that a long, happy, life can be lived. No one has lived long enough with the modern medicine available. Its crazy that people don't seem to understand that these clinics love getting lifelong patients. They're doing it for a financial incentives.

    Children are always their true selves, but they dont always know what words mean. I wanted to "marry" my (male) cousin (male) when I was like 6 years old because he was my best friend. All it took was my mom saying "oh you can't get married, thats not what marriage is. you can still be best friends though." and me just going "okay". I've only ever been sexually attracted to women my entire life and I'm married. Parents are in charge of dictating their child's reality. It is grooming. It is manipulation. You are pulling them to something they have no business being involved in so you can use them as a human-shield for sympathy and go "BUT THE CHILDREN". Yes, BUT THE CHILDREN...should be left alone. My wife and I are now trying to take steps to start a family in the next 2-3 years. Thank God I didn't have a stupid mom trying to make me a girl for something I said when I was 6.

    What extreme cases have I provided?

    A "slippery slope" to what?
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    Last edited by RaionKansen; 07-17-2026 at 06:53 AM.