A question about Tanking

[Kohashi]

Very hard to tell just based on your words and also very hard to tell without a log to actually look at your rotation.

I had a AST in a lvl 95 dungeon today (still working on my mentor roulette..lol) who gave me, every single card..I was on Tank..

[Gwenkatsu]

So an anecdote, a few years ago, during EW, I got Dead Ends on roulette, I was on DPS, I believe Dancer, the Healer was clearly struggling the entire, and the other DPS died quite a few times, but I was doing my part for the most part. On the last boss, I doze off a little and get nicked by the butterfly lasers, which apply a heal-to-full Doom, don't get healed at all, even popped Second Wind to help, and die, that was the only mistake that I made the entire run. The Healer doesn't rez me at all, and spent the entire rest of the fight, like 60% or more of the boss HP I don't quite remember, with just the Tank and Healer. At the end, when I was waiting the loot to be rolled for, the Tank says something to the effect of "Maybe if you stopped dying so much she'd heal you", and immediately leaves, again, I took one avoidable hit the entire dungeon, and the death could've been prevented.

The point that I am getting to is that sometimes someone in a dungeon will identify there is some sort of problem with the party, and for some reason, decide it is your fault, maybe they aren't paying enough attention, maybe they are friends with the person that is being the problem and want to not blame them, but it happens, and there is nothing you can do other than accept they are wrong.

Now that you say it... there was an Aurum Vale run years ago I still remember. The healer was massively struggling, and I had to use every defensive I had to survive the single group pulls I was forced to do.
Then a DD with the same surname as the healer asked me something like "tank do you know what a defensive is?"
Pro: they did it during the dungeon, not at the end before leaving immediately.
Con: I kept every defense I had constantly on cooldown, because the healer was so bad. And if they cared to look, they could see under my portrait that I was using my defensives.

I rolled my eyes, thought about an answer for a moment... then silently continued the horrible run, since discussions that start like this never get you anywhere. But it was a text book example of "my buddy is struggling, but it's my buddy, so it must be someone else's fault".

[MayuAmakura]

This happens all the time, there's no reason to open a thread about this just because someone typed 1 sentence. Blacklist, mute, whatever is your pick. We can't know here what you did wrong or not, nor that it cares in a dungeon if it went all good.

[Allooutrick]

Being toxic, refusing to elaborate, and leaving in casual content certainly is a choice. Especially considering that content outside of extremes, savage, etc, are very forgiving.

[RenkoBernkastel]

Being toxic, refusing to elaborate, and leaving in casual content certainly is a choice. Especially considering that content outside of extremes, savage, etc, are very forgiving.

Unsalvageable community if "bro...Tank... you really need to read your abilities" is considered "being toxic".

[Cyrnix]

Were you overlapping mitigation or using Provoke in the middle of rotation while already having the pack aggro'd?

Other than that, I can't possibly think what the problem could have been.

It is possible I fat fingered two cooldowns at the same time during the last boss. I thought about it after the guy said something and that was the only thing that came to mind. But it's not like it mattered. Somebody mentioned using Nascent flash to save the healer. The first time the healer died was on the very first boss. They didn't move out of a nuke and well.. yeah they died. The second time was during the last boss, and it was the same thing. They just got nuked. However, I actually didn't even think about using nascent flash to try and save somebody who is in trouble. So that is a good tip. I don't play WAR as a main I play RPR, but I have really enjoyed playing my WAR a lot more lately.

[Cyrnix]

Unsalvageable community if "bro...Tank... you really need to read your abilities" is considered "being toxic".

It's not what he said that's toxic, it's that he said it and didn't stick around to tell me what I was doing wrong. Which I would have been completely open to because I'm always happy to learn and do better. I have no problem with people criticizing me, but if you're not going to try to help me understand what I did wrong, then I can improve. And after all this is just a dungeon In daily roulettes. It's not like it was difficult content.

[Cyrnix]

I was just curious if I was missing something and looking for pointers. I'm not looking to call anybody out or talk about toxicity to be honest. So I felt like as somebody who doesn't typically tank much, if there are some obvious things that people do that I could easily miss (which a couple have been pointed out and I appreciate) then that's all I was looking for. I'm in an FC but nobody ever talks in it (not even sure anyone is ever even on lol) and quite honestly I don't know why I'm still in it. I pretty much play the game alone, so I don't really have anybody to run anything by in game. Otherwise I would have just asked people in my FC if was active.

[Cyrnix]

I was just curious if I was missing something and looking for pointers. I'm not looking to call anybody out or talk about toxicity to be honest. So I felt like as somebody who doesn't typically tank much, if there are some obvious things that people do that I could easily miss (which a couple have been pointed out and I appreciate) then that's all I was looking for. I'm in an FC but nobody ever talks in it (not even sure anyone is ever even on lol) and quite honestly I don't know why I'm still in it. I pretty much play the game alone, so I don't really have anybody to run anything by in game. Otherwise I would have just asked people in my FC if was active.

Sorry this was in response to "This happens all the time, there's no reason to open a thread about this just because someone typed 1 sentence. Blacklist, mute, whatever is your pick. We can't know here what you did wrong or not, nor that it cares in a dungeon if it went all good."

[Alice_Rivers]

It's not what he said that's toxic, it's that he said it and didn't stick around to tell me what I was doing wrong. Which I would have been completely open to because I'm always happy to learn and do better. I have no problem with people criticizing me, but if you're not going to try to help me understand what I did wrong, then I can improve. And after all this is just a dungeon In daily roulettes. It's not like it was difficult content.

If you have the drive space and cpu/gpu capacity available while running FF, you could try recording your play with OBS (or other recording software of your preference) and watch it back if you feel like something went badly and just see what, if anything, you could have done differently to make it better.