Please Allow/Encourage Players to Opt Into Harder Content

[Jeeqbit]

The only way they could do it is to make it required to try out an Extreme for MSQ. Then a lot of people would realize "oh, I actually can do this content". They are just too anxious to try in many cases.

But that could prevent certain players from being able to progress as well, because some players really are not gamers and aren't good at playing games generally, and are just doing the story or playing for social reasons. SE wants to avoid putting a wall on their progression like that, and have even mostly made the MSQ soloable with trials being a breeze.

players will treat the third tier of raids coming in EC the same way they do Extremes: In NA, they are relegated exclusively to PF

If they are Extreme difficulty, yes. If they are more like Advanced, then people may just queue at first, because Advanced was something I could queue in blind and clear within 1-2 tries on each boss and it was easy for people to carry me through things I hadn't got used to yet.

Free Trial players can't make a PF, but want to clear Titan Extreme.

They could make an Extreme roulette, so that it's not just Mentor Roulette supplying them. That would be ideal. In any case, it will be a long time before the Free Trial reaches level 110 and it is a free trial that is meant to have restrictions.

If there was side content like Wondrous Tails that required being synced but perhaps gave better rewards, I think people would run them more and thus newer players could experience older Extremes as "intended"

Agreed but the bigger potential is for them to add Faux Hollows to a random old Extreme trial for doing it Minimum Item Level / Silence Echo, to help people catch up on the sheer amount of rewards there are for it now. It genuinely would take years to get all the Faux Hollows rewards without gil, especially when they are added to over time.

This has been directly put to Yoshi-P and he wasn't completely opposed to it but doesn't want to make players feel like it's required. Yet, it works fine for Unreal, so it makes no sense why they haven't done it. It's just leaving old content to rot, despite many players having never experienced it.

[Gwenkatsu]

The only way they could do it is to make it required to try out an Extreme for MSQ. Then a lot of people would realize "oh, I actually can do this content". They are just too anxious to try in many cases.

I'm a carry in the normal MSQ trials, so I wouldn't mind to be a carry in an Extreme. Whenever someone complains they have to scratch me from the floor 20 times in a run I'll direct them your way

BTT: I don't mind specific roulettes for harder content - as long as I'm not forced to do them, of course.

[Emitans]

The only way they could do it is to make it required to try out an Extreme for MSQ.

I don't want to spend dozens of hours fighting the real boss of FFXIV (party finder) just to progress story. Between people constantly lying about their progress to parties disbanding over literally any friction, extremes and up are a waste of time unless you have a static.

[Minarisweet]

The only way they could do it is to make it required to try out an Extreme for MSQ. Then a lot of people would realize "oh, I actually can do this content". They are just too anxious to try in many cases.

But that could prevent certain players from being able to progress as well, because some players really are not gamers and aren't good at playing games generally, and are just doing the story or playing for social reasons. SE wants to avoid putting a wall on their progression like that, and have even mostly made the MSQ soloable with trials being a breeze.

If they are Extreme difficulty, yes. If they are more like Advanced, then people may just queue at first, because Advanced was something I could queue in blind and clear within 1-2 tries on each boss and it was easy for people to carry me through things I hadn't got used to yet.
They could make an Extreme roulette, so that it's not just Mentor Roulette supplying them. That would be ideal. In any case, it will be a long time before the Free Trial reaches level 110 and it is a free trial that is meant to have restrictions.
Agreed but the bigger potential is for them to add Faux Hollows to a random old Extreme trial for doing it Minimum Item Level / Silence Echo, to help people catch up on the sheer amount of rewards there are for it now. It genuinely would take years to get all the Faux Hollows rewards without gil, especially when they are added to over time.

This has been directly put to Yoshi-P and he wasn't completely opposed to it but doesn't want to make players feel like it's required. Yet, it works fine for Unreal, so it makes no sense why they haven't done it. It's just leaving old content to rot, despite many players having never experienced it.

Why are you so close minded to every single request people make? Its like you forgot to think out of the box like the devs did so long ago.

[Jeeqbit]

Why are you so close minded to every single request people make?

I am not. I am engaging with the debate in-depth and providing reasonable, constructive analysis of the points made, rather than making it an echo chamber with no debate, no challenge to their points, no context or depth.

If what you took from it was that I was close-minded, then you most likely didn't read my post at all, since I suggested Faux Hollows was a better idea than WT due to the sheer number of rewards available from it now and it already being geared to synced content, and getting them purely from Unreal would take years now. And I was supportive of things like an Extreme Roulette.

It is quite important to understand that people do play this game that can't do harder content because they aren't gamers and are just here to be with their significant other, or for social reasons, and it is a reasonable (and obvious) point to bring up in this debate about making harder content required for MSQ.

[Darnath]

It is quite important to understand that people do play this game that can't do harder content because they aren't gamers and are just here to be with their significant other, or for social reasons, and it is a reasonable (and obvious) point to bring up in this debate about making harder content required for MSQ.

Second time you've said this now and I had to bring it up.

So you're saying all the people who avoid Extremes or higher for various reasons aren't *real gamers*. That's rather close minded.

Gamer isn't just defined by somebody who keeps trying harder challenges over and over until they pass it. They're also people who play games to relax after a long day at work or other matters. Conversely they're also people who dedicate their whole life to it and managed to turn it into a career. It's why I prefer to always add a tag when mentioning gamers (casual, dedicated, hardcore, etc).

[BERSERKEERR]

Second time you've said this now and I had to bring it up.

So you're saying all the people who avoid Extremes or higher for various reasons aren't *real gamers*. That's rather close minded.

Gamer isn't just defined by somebody who keeps trying harder challenges over and over until they pass it. They're also people who play games to relax after a long day at work or other matters. Conversely they're also people who dedicate their whole life to it and managed to turn it into a career. It's why I prefer to always add a tag when mentioning gamers (casual, dedicated, hardcore, etc).

managing to find jeeqbit offensive is something else. guy is as diplomatic as can be