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    Themule's Avatar
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    UNDERCUTTING....

    ...is getting really annoying.

    edit: ...is totally awesome! Turns out I actually LOVE spending hours reorganizing my retainers. It just took me 242 lodestone posts to realize it. Thx everyone!!.....
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    Last edited by Themule; 05-10-2012 at 04:29 PM.

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    WinnipegJet's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Themule View Post
    ...is getting really annoying.
    A big hello from your friendly neighbourhood undercutter!
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    Raikki Zero
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    I wouldn't mind undercutting if there was a minimum amount you could undercut by. If I want to sell something for 20k and someone else is willing to take 15k for it, that's fine. But 19,999? Come on now.
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    Kuma Akuma
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    Under cutting by 1 gill I understand. I can even understand undercutting by 1% .

    I don't understand undercutting by +20%
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    Quote Originally Posted by KumaAkuma View Post
    Under cutting by 1 gill I understand. I can even understand undercutting by 1% .

    I don't understand undercutting by +20%
    ... when people undercut me by 1 gil i end up lowering the price by 20%, funny.

    edit: I.E: mythril wristlets i'm constantly getting undercut by 1 no matter the price i set 20k i get undercut by 1, i lower to 15k? they lower it to 14.9k and i only see 5-10 ppl who actually sell this. but it is like this for all the most liked SB equip., but still, very annoying.
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    Last edited by Tatsuguy; 05-09-2012 at 11:00 AM.

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    Agilo Sur
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    It is dumb, but just buy their shit and resell.
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    Player
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    maybe you have time to constantly reprice stuff on your retainers, i dont. its not about the money, its about the hassle of this UI. i'm still rich, beeotch. ;-)
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    Yeah people do it purely to fuck with you. For example if you're the only one selling something, someone will pop up and undercut you by 5-8k or more at times even though you can make quite the profit.

    Last sold was 120k a few months ago and haven't been seen since in any market, so you start making it and sell it for 80k due to lower price on mats etc, someone pops up and decide "hey, I want to sell this too now!" and sell it for 20k.

    I mean really?
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    Doom Cky
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    I try and match lowest price on stuff I sell unless I feel it will sell with in 24hours at a higher rate, casue in the end undercuters are hurting them selfs + others casue lowing the over all price of stuff.

    Wonder if they ever plan on letting players know what player the retainer is selling for. Prob never happen casue it woudl bring up more issues lol
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    Last edited by DoomCky; 05-09-2012 at 06:05 AM.

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    Taja Shin
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    Samurai Lv 70
    It's a free market. If someone wants to sell something for cheaper than you, then that's their right. There is no arbitrary inflexible "true price" for a given item that you can declare from which no one is allowed to deviate. You may think it's dumb that someone sells something for far cheaper than you think it's worth, but what if they have a cheaper source for their materials, such as if they've worked out a supply arrangement with some gatherers? There's no golden rule that "item X is 150k, any less than that is undercutting." If it costs a crafter less to make something and he can make it in greater volume than you, he'd be stupid not to try to sell it for cheaper than his competition, and he may very well be trying to drive the competition (i.e., you) away. You need to either compete with their prices, wait it out if you don't think they're in it for the long haul, or deal with it.

    For as much as all of the FFXI players seem to like to make themselves out to be rugged individualists, one of the things that struck me most when I started playing was how many of them bawl about being undercut.
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