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  1. #31
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    ThaCa's Avatar
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    Wise Fuchsia
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    Phantom
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Currently the game wastes A LOT of content by having it be completely trivial and mechanics being ignorable. Nier raids are on the other end of the spectrum where they just take forever and half the mechanics are still just face tankable anyway. There's gotta be a middle ground where the mechanics come out at decent pace and the bosses don't take forever to finish.

    Even worse is the trash pulls for majority of the game, they are completely boring and do basically nothing while either dissappearing in few globals in low levels or taking a while at higher, basically never being a threat. They should commit to one way or another, either make them all pullable up to bosses and dissappear in no time like low levels or make them threatening enough to warrant their existence.
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  2. #32
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    Nestama's Avatar
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    Nestama Eynfoetsyn
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    Lamia
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    Samurai Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by ThaCa View Post
    There's gotta be a middle ground where the mechanics come out at decent pace and the bosses don't take forever to finish.
    Ivalice is the middle ground. Everything is fast paced and quickly begins to stack on each other. In the first minute in the fight against Hashmal, he does: raid-wide AoE immediately followed by ground AoE's that follow multiple alliance members for three "explosions," then a single falling tower, immediately followed by his half-room charge which is then also immediately followed by him summoning an earth mist that creates a proximity AoE. All of that in just a minute. At a minute and thirty seconds, he brings the Command Tower DPS check into the field. He may also use his raid-wide one after the other, too.
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  3. #33
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    Themarvin's Avatar
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    Sojitora Iga
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    Zodiark
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    Monk Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Alicie View Post
    Well do you really want it to become wipe wipe wiiiiiiipe instead of skip skip skiiiiiiip?

    It's a double edged sword
    Yes please... I like to be able to wipe wipe and wipe.... it is not a double edged sword, not if the rewards is there as well for it
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  4. #34
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    Endris Caemwynn
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    Coeurl
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alicie View Post
    Well do you really want it to become wipe wipe wiiiiiiipe instead of skip skip skiiiiiiip?

    It's a double edged sword
    I've seen multiple LotA groups wipe on the Atomos hallway because people are checked out and just running forward. They'll happen no matter where the raid is on the spectrum, so I'd rather have some engagement and tension.
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  5. #35
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    Na'mira Yarhu
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    Zodiark
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    yes pls let us wipe.
    cidolfus is still the best 24man fight in this game!
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    for satisfying glam builduing we need 5 basic glamplates + 2 more for each class / job
    pls add old glowy ex trial weapons for new jobs!
    and for gods sake pls give as the ability to preview any hairstyle on our own character!

  6. #36
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    UNDEAD10000's Avatar
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    Yunao Arun
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    Cerberus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alicie View Post
    Well do you really want it to become wipe wipe wiiiiiiipe instead of skip skip skiiiiiiip?

    It's a double edged sword
    I want nomal alliance raids having same level of challenge with high chance to wipe just like we used to have back in 2.0, 3.0 and even 4.0 times, then having normal alliance raids without any challenge with mechanics that can being either skipped or ignored entirely just like all alliance raids currently are.
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    Last edited by UNDEAD10000; 05-20-2026 at 10:46 PM.

  7. #37
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    TheGrimace's Avatar
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    Knives Jonquil
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    Hyperion
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    Rogue Lv 100
    I like the Nier raids.

    Ivalice is my favorite, but Nier has aged the best.
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  8. #38
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    Kaye Esdarke
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    Pugilist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Alicie View Post
    Well do you really want it to become wipe wipe wiiiiiiipe instead of skip skip skiiiiiiip?
    Yes. That's what it was when it launched, that's what it should continue to be. Dying should be a normal part of the game instead of an event so rare people spend the entire rest of the run complaining about it.
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  9. #39
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    Raion Kansen
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    Behemoth
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    Samurai Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by ThaCa View Post
    Currently the game wastes A LOT of content by having it be completely trivial and mechanics being ignorable. Nier raids are on the other end of the spectrum where they just take forever and half the mechanics are still just face tankable anyway. There's gotta be a middle ground where the mechanics come out at decent pace and the bosses don't take forever to finish.

    Even worse is the trash pulls for majority of the game, they are completely boring and do basically nothing while either dissappearing in few globals in low levels or taking a while at higher, basically never being a threat. They should commit to one way or another, either make them all pullable up to bosses and dissappear in no time like low levels or make them threatening enough to warrant their existence.
    People don't want to wipe in alliance raids.

    They have an opportunity to do something really well with the new difficulty tier in-between normal and savage raids.

    Also some people really need to do more than just roulettes and stop expecting some kind of fulfillment from the content beyond maybe the first couple times they do it
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  10. #40
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    Wise Fuchsia
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    Phantom
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by RaionKansen View Post
    People don't want to wipe in alliance raids.

    They have an opportunity to do something really well with the new difficulty tier in-between normal and savage raids.

    Also some people really need to do more than just roulettes and stop expecting some kind of fulfillment from the content beyond maybe the first couple times they do it
    Having mechanics easily skippable or ignorable just wastes the content completely. It's not that hard to begin with and has no meaning if it's completely brainless run.
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