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    Yeah actually, since there will probably not be "basic" raidbuffs anymore, then actually using your strongest dps song will not be your priority, but optimizing your utility will be, because anyway you will have to use your 3 songs in a loop.

    By the way, they said "synergy actions"(raidbuffs) will disappear, but that doesn't necessarily means that every damage buff will disappear, for example they didn't talk about radiant finale of the bard, but we saw it in the footage so it should still be in the game, its duration was 10 seconds, and it requires you to use your 3 songs before using it. Will it be a 10 second damage buff for the whole team ? If so then it means you will want to ask your team to try and benefit from it the most like we do in the current meta i guess.

    Like Mikey_R explained, you can only use each of your song once a minute, but their durations doesn't seem to last for 20 seconds from what i have seen, more like between 10 and 14 seconds, which means you'll be forced to use filler combos at some point. You might even want to not use them from the start of a fight. But since you can stack performance resources, it means that to maximize your songs' utility, at some point you might want to use only your filler combos in order to benefit from your potential damage buff/shield/heal/movement speed at the right time in the fight. Looks interesting to me, we have to make choices to optimize utility, or to optimize radiant finale which might still be a raidbuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karuya View Post
    Yeah actually, since there will probably not be "basic" raidbuffs anymore, then actually using your strongest dps song will not be your priority, but optimizing your utility will be, because anyway you will have to use your 3 songs in a loop.

    By the way, they said "synergy actions"(raidbuffs) will disappear, but that doesn't necessarily means that every damage buff will disappear, for example they didn't talk about radiant finale of the bard, but we saw it in the footage so it should still be in the game, its duration was 10 seconds, and it requires you to use your 3 songs before using it. Will it be a 10 second damage buff for the whole team ? If so then it means you will want to ask your team to try and benefit from it the most like we do in the current meta i guess.
    I'm really worried about this personally, especially if the songs stay with no CD or the potencies are all wacky like release PCT where one song just does significantly more damage than the rest, then your "freedom" gets completely removed, you'd ALWAYS be using your strongest song under Radiant Finale, this becomes an especially big issue with the movespeed increase. I can imagine anyone who played during 6.0 remembers randomly dying because a SCH gave expedience and you weren't expecting it. Or needing to specifically SAVE the strongest song for a mechanic that happens 30 seconds into the minute and being forced to do a different less damaging combo (during the hypothetical Finale buff) just to make a mechanic easier on the party.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StarryVera View Post
    I'm really worried about this personally, especially if the songs stay with no CD
    Apparently they can't be used multiple times until unlocking Radiant Finale re-enables playing them again. So you need to at least play all three before restarting the cycle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valence View Post
    Apparently they can't be used multiple times until unlocking Radiant Finale re-enables playing them again. So you need to at least play all three before restarting the cycle.
    Yes but i think they were talking about the song you chose to use AFTER radiant finale, because this song WILL benefit from radiant finale for some seconds. I also thought about it, i hope that the songs wil be mostly equals in term of damage at least in their first seconds.

    I think the strongest one will be the wanderer minuet because of the last hit with a cast time and the buff that allows it to be critical direct hit. But by watching the video, you can see that it's normally impossible for this skill to benefit from radiant finale : radiant finale is 10 seconds long, but after using radiant finale, you are forced to use "radiant encore" which is 2.50 gcd, then if you directly use minuet you have to use 2 others 2.50 gcd before using the final hit which is a 2.50 cast, so if i'm right this skill should hit after radiant finale is over. And you cannot make this faster, because you are forced to use radiant encore before being allowed to use any other song again, and i don't think skillspeed could allow you to make your gcd fast enough to make it.

    So yeah, nothing is guaranteed but at least it seems impossible for the wanderer minuet to be fully used under radiant finale. So i hope that if there is a difference in potency between songs, it will not be too big. Or maybe, radiant finale will just not be a damage buff, we don't know anything yet.
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