2 Jobs Per Expansion is not enough.

[LanceSummers]

Why stop at 3? make it 5, maybe 10, the skies the limit when you don't care about how the jobs play.

I do care about how jobs play, and 8.0 is when Square said they will fix the job design. I just want more jobs, their design is a separate issue.

[LanceSummers]

make them start at lvl 1 and give them more jobquests so people need longer to lvl them up

People are already complaining about not being able to use their full kit in low level content, this is probably just gonna make the problem worse

[CidHeiral]

Not really? Final Fantasy as a series has had so many jobs that the sky's the limit for available options
And even if they do run out... They can always just make original jobs.

It's not a matter of running out of ideas. They're going to stop adding jobs eventually because the game having 40+ jobs would be a nightmare to maintain/balance and very daunting for a new player. Yoship himself has confirmed as much, go look it up.

[Selsix]

It's not a matter of running out of ideas. They're going to stop adding jobs eventually because the game having 40+ jobs would be a nightmare to maintain/balance and very daunting for a new player. Yoship himself has confirmed as much, go look it up.

While this is true, I expect the day they announce "no more new jobs" to ring a death knell for the game. At that point SE will probably crank out a new MMO and throw this one into life support/maintenance mode.

[LanceSummers]

It's not a matter of running out of ideas. They're going to stop adding jobs eventually because the game having 40+ jobs would be a nightmare to maintain/balance and very daunting for a new player. Yoship himself has confirmed as much, go look it up.

Wow does this. If ffxiv can't do it then legit what are they doing???

[VictorSpoils]

Are we telling jokes or something? Because I'll eat my foot if they "fix" more than one job MAYBE with 8.0. SE these days likes to put in as little effort as possible while acting like it was some herculean effort and then state they'll do more in patches or the following expansion (almost always a lie). The day we get a complete overhaul for every job is the day I buy a damn lottery ticket.

It says they have to get fixed, not that they will.

[Selsix]

It says they have to get fixed, not that they will.

Not exactly. The direct wording states "probably". I'm saying the chances of that happening are essentially zero.

[Reginald_Cain]

hard disagree, quality over quanitiy but in a perfect world both. IMO its time to stop adding new jobs and expand older jobs. The homogeny has gotten out of control with healers since shadowbringers and their dps "rotation" is two buttons. We need to either abolish the role system and let all jobs have variants that can fill different roles. no reason red mage lore wise can't be a dps or healer and paladin is basically all three roles in one already so designing modes for it should be easy.

Another idea i had was cross class animation glamours. maxing black mage and monk allows the monk to replace the animations for their attacks with a flame, lightning or ice enhanced version and black mage could kick their foul at the enemy! the potency wouldn't be altered so min maxers don't ruin your choice.

Hybrid jobs are another idea i toyed with if we must add a bunch more jobs. Example summoner+machinist unlocks a Kaze from final fantasy unlimited inspired job. You load magical soil filled bullets into the magun to fire out a summon at enemies.

[debleb]

make them start at lvl 1 and give them more jobquests so people need longer to lvl them up

Levelling from lvl 1 is miserable. Start them from 50 or 30 at the lowest.

[Asari5]

the lvling experience being miserable is something they have to look at anyway. (i doubt they do though xD)
it doesnt just affect levelling but it goes also into why synching down is terrible... and synching down is such a big part in this game.