So Long, and thanks for eating all my fish!! (Race Bonus thread)

[Wolfie]

So then how about we don't go with the FFXI style of race bonuses (which were more like race disadvantages), and we do something more similar to WOW or RIFT, where you simply get some almost inconsequential, highly situational, but fun and visually distinct abilities?

[Zyph]

So then how about we don't go with the FFXI style of race bonuses (which were more like race disadvantages), and we do something more similar to WOW or RIFT, where you simply get some almost inconsequential, highly situational, but fun and visually distinct abilities?

I actually like this idea.


It would also help further racial lore in game, as there is currently none aside from what's on the website.

[Fiosha_Maureiba]

So then how about we don't go with the FFXI style of race bonuses (which were more like race disadvantages), and we do something more similar to WOW or RIFT, where you simply get some almost inconsequential, highly situational, but fun and visually distinct abilities?

I think with Rift, the abilities are far more inconsequential. Something closer to that maybe.

WoW, I think some races had a larger advantage competitive wise (i.e. undead, gnome, human).

Gnome removes debuffs 1~2.
Undead removes debuff 3~5.
Human removes all the above, plus debuff 6.

[Wolfie]

I think with Rift, the abilities are far more inconsequential. Something closer to that maybe.

WoW, I think some races had a larger advantage competitive wise (i.e. undead, gnome, human).

Gnome removes debuffs 1~2.
Undead removes debuff 3~5.
Human removes all the above, plus debuff 6.

Those generally were only useful or 'overpowered' in PVP.

In PVE, the fights were too varied for any single racial ability to make a difference. The debuff removal from Gnomes, Forsaken and Humans let them swap out a trinket for a very minor (<2%) performance boost. Same for resistances, or weapon expertise, or anything else. They were pretty much pointless in most situations, but they were cool gimmicks to use when solo or while leveling.