YPYT is griefing. Tank role is not "puller" role

[Masekase_Hurricane]

Nowhere does it say they can't either. You are told, as a tank, however, to "take aggro off your ally" by the Hall of the Novice NPCs. Which implies letting the DPS die for petty reasons doesn't make for a good player.

Pulling extra mobs doesn't interfere with someone's gameplay because the intent isn't malicious. Intentionally allowing them to die, on the other hand, does.

It's very loose if the tank states they cant handle more than x mobs then yes you are griefing if you wipe the party.

[Asari5]

i mean what does a tank do? a tank spams aoe and rotates through their mitigation skills. there is not much difference if there are 5 or 15 enemies... not for the tank.

the healer is the one who feels the differences the most. instead of spamming the one dmg button they will havee to heal.... so the healer should be the one to decide how much gets pulled, no?

[Elinor]

So, when a dd is runnig and pulls grps i let him die and take the aggro from evryone besides him. I play this game 13 years now and this is how we hadel it since day 1. This WoW manners can you ceep where they belong but not in FFXIV we have good manners we say hello and Tank you we are polite to others. Ceep your bad behavior out of the Game!
Ply WoW instead where evryone pulls like an animal and people are Toxic thanks you.

[Burmecia]

The tank responsibility is to keep agro, group the mobs and mitigate. Not to save you when you pull on your own.

"something something that's griefing! if tank's gonna do that they're bad, and fartface >>: ("

i kinda agree with the quote. the not saving part.

Consult your team.

upon attempted, more likely scenario:

Tank: hey, i'm new so--

DPS: sprints ahead already, pulling Everything

[MayuAmakura]

So, when a dd is runnig and pulls grps i let him die and take the aggro from evryone besides him. I play this game 13 years now and this is how we hadel it since day 1. This WoW manners can you ceep where they belong but not in FFXIV we have good manners we say hello and Tank you we are polite to others. Ceep your bad behavior out of the Game!
Ply WoW instead where evryone pulls like an animal and people are Toxic thanks you.

I don't think you ever played WoW because doing that will get you killed in a matter of a second. Specially if its older expansion.

[MayuAmakura]

When I play as a tank I'll rush as fast as possible. If it's an older dungeon from ARR / HW, gotta be careful because not a lot of heals on tanks at those levels + healers may not be great and fail to heal you.
If dps wants to help me by pulling mobs, I don't care. They won't die anyways and I'll just take it over. It helps. As a healer I can also pull ahead of tank if tank is extremely slow and never using sprint.

People here don't seem to realize that you don't play by the rules that someone decided to put in *your game*, you play by the behavior and how the group is going. Specially if people tried to actually talk in dungeons and not just do "hi" and pretend "yes this is how I do it after 13 years, please respect me or I won't heal". That kind of behavior leads to a kick pretty fast.

[JerryBerrry]

Wow, people still posting here 3 years later. My take on this, if you’re a tank in any dungeons after 50, you should not be doing any more single pulls.

[Laerune]

This could all be solved by communicating with the group. Majority decides.

[Yuella]

If DPS pull, they should at least bring it to the tank so the tank doesnt have to move to get aggro on that mob