For Shame, Mr. Yoshida - Being a Healer in 2026

[Valence]

I remember how painful doing any sort of open world was on traditional healers, too, because you essentially did close to 0 dmg. So I too do not understand this " I want to be a healer bot" mentality.

Ah, I do not know why I remember that from our last conversation about this you started in ShB.

Anyway, that makes zero sense, because you can perfectly have a system where healing is required enough that no matter the damage nukes you give to a healer, the healer won't be able to use them much if at all. If some other MMOs can't even give some attack spells to their healers, this has literally very little to do with healing requirements.

[Reginald_Cain]

All of those are game design concerns that could pretty easily be addressed without making healers obsolete in the vast majority of content. Being able to save runs in a clutch situation is fine. Being able to both tank and keep the party topped off like WAR is able to, not so much.

Also, nobody would feel harassed unless you're being a jerk. Otherwise I'd have been banned fifty times over by now.

I've had one too many experiences with people getting mad about being asked to deviate from their "desired gameplay experience they pay a sub for"

Yeah healer in casual content could be fun if they had things to do when they aren't healing a dark knight wall to wall pulling. What i want most is engaging dps mechanics like Scholars old dot stacking in stormblood. As far as getting to heal more its difficult to implement that without upsetting half the player base. I hope healer is more engaging in 8.0 because that role has been awful to play since shadowbringers.

[Ser_Arven]

Ah yes, spamming Glare and refreshing Dia every 30 seconds with lilies after a scripted raidwide is so much fun... Healing is needed in that content, sure, but the actual gameplay doesn’t feel fun. In EX and Savage, most fights boil down to: “everyone hits their mitigation, heal the party, and then we wait for the next raidwide while pressing ONE You say "if you don't like it there are other mmo\\'s out there." and I'll repeat myself to everyone who uses that stupid argument, enjoy uttering that phrase when enough people DO leave the game and the game doesn\\'t reach the funds needed to continue operating. Those using that phrase keep using it to downplay genuine issues people are having because it doesn\\'t affect them. It\\'s so obnoxious.

What's obnoxious in my opinion is that people who don't like the game as it is pretend that their sub money is going to hit SE where it hurts and that their $12 a month is so valuable that Square need to change the game to suit you.

News flash. The game will stay profitable because no other mmo offers the RP of FFXIV (nightclubs, venues ect) the gpose and glamour opportunities, the unique housing aesthetic, Ultimate raids (which other mmos don't have an equivalent of) and many other things.

You aren't special so yes if you don't enjoy what healing is in this game. Go play WoW where you can spam heals.

[Ankhira]

What's obnoxious in my opinion is that people who don't like the game as it is pretend that their sub money is going to hit SE where it hurts and that their $12 a month is so valuable that Square need to change the game to suit you.

News flash. The game will stay profitable because no other mmo offers the RP of FFXIV (nightclubs, venues ect) the gpose and glamour opportunities, the unique housing aesthetic, Ultimate raids (which other mmos don't have an equivalent of) and many other things.

You aren't special so yes if you don't enjoy what healing is in this game. Go play WoW where you can spam heals.

People are allowed to give feedback on a role they enjoy without being told to leave the game. FFXIV is popular for a lot of reasons that doesn’t mean every part of the game is perfect or above criticism. Saying “the game is profitable so don’t complain” isn’t an argument, it’s just shutting down discussion because you're not affected the problem. And telling people to go play other mmo's because they want healing to feel more engaging is exactly why these conversations go nowhere. Nobody is asking for wall‑to‑wall healing or for the game to become completely different. We’re asking for healers to have something to do besides Glare spam.

Other players wanting more depth in their favorite role doesn’t make them insane, entitled, or not special. It just means they care enough to want the role to feel good to play.

I also don't know where your "You aren't special" comes from, considering I simply gave my opinion on healing as a healer main and you decided to come here with snark and insults, grow up. You're clearly not here to argue in good faith just telling people to quit the game if they are unhappy with something and bait reactions, I'll stick to XIV which I still enjoy despite it's flaws, thank you very much.

[Uzephi]

You aren't special so yes if you don't enjoy what healing is in this game. Go play WoW where you can spam heals.

There is a big difference between wanting to utilize your role and "spamming heals." I don't think anyone asked to "spam heals." That shows you're very tone deaf of the role in question. Spamming heals and not thinking will be a complete waste of time and will result in overheals, your responses prove you have no idea how this role normally works and how it actually worked in this game before it was gutted to be just a single DPS button spam and refresh of dots since healing and even cleric stance are no longer things.

[Rolder50]

WoW for all the hate is actually a great example of how a healer can be fun. They still have 3-4 DPS buttons you can use to contribute damage with when possible, but otherwise managing your healing resources (cooldowns, mana, dispels) actually matters and leads to the healing part feeling actually engaging. There's a reason that WoW healer performance is measured by HPS and FF14 performance is measure by DPS.

[Uzephi]

There's a reason that WoW healer performance is measured by HPS and FF14 performance is measure by DPS.

This really shows how borked healing is in this game. Healers aren't even held accountable for their HPS, just how much damage they contribute. Might as well be green DPS and not be called healer anymore.

[GraceHorizon]

This might be a healer-focused topic, but I have my own grievances with playing DPS because it's only "number goes up" with zero utility, which leads to its own kind of boredom.

The only DPS I play much is Reaper, but I do make sure to use its party support abilities when applicable: Feint when it seems useful, and Arcane Crest whenever I’m going to take damage and it’s off cooldown, particularly for partywides so I can use its party regen to help the healer(s). (I quite enjoy that the death-themed job has a party regen…)

Hey, remember when people were saying that the healer strike would have "zero impact" on queues?

Hmm... one has to wonder where all the veteran healers went to where lower skilled ones now make up the bulk of those taking up the green slot. But I'm sure it's just sheer coincidence, as always~

It’s a pretty funny situation. For all that people say healing sucks, tank need is still the most common need bonus. You would think people would avoid healing if it sucked so much.

[Reginald_Cain]

Lmao healers asked to heal more before and all it resulted in was healers losing dps buttons and every role got healing. Can't wait for healer to be made worse again cuz the green bar topping addicts asked for something the devs dont know how to make / aren't interested in making because a large section of the community doesn't want to heal the whole fight just when scripted.

Healing will never be like older MMOs in this game because there's too much confusion on the dev team and too much belly aching from the vocal minority xDDDDD

HEALER ROLE IS DEAD AND ITS NEVER GETTING GREAT AGAIN AHAHAHAHAHAHA

[Sunhwapark]

A bit off-topic, but I do miss the cleric stance debate threads and sylphie wars, pretty much all threads posts regarding healer as a role from the end of Stormblood leading up to today are quite depressing to look back at.