12 Gods of Hell(Where are 12 hells/realms in FF14?)

[TempusFinis]

12 Gods of Hell(Where are 12 hells/realms in FF14?)

The FF14 game is amazing and probably the best in the world highlighting duality and having strong references to real life examples, such as the Sitra Achra (i.e. the other side in the Kabbalah) and Dante Circles (See screenshots for real life references).






However, we just battle 12 gods from "Myths of the Realm", and went to a heavenly area and they let us defeat them, but their counter parts were never seen. For example, Byregot (the builder), based on duality, should have a entity, "Builder of Hell", in the 12 hells/realms. Based on duality, there should be 12 hells/realms with 12 gods of hell.





https://ffxiv.fandom.com/wiki/Hells_and_Heavens

Isn't it interesting that the "gifts" supposedly from the 12 hells come from defeating fellow warriors of light on a massive scale, such as the hellbound armour set and mounts?






I would personally like to see a battle, alliance raids...possibly chaotic, between the 12 gods of hell in their respective 12 hells/realms vs Sephiroth/Zenos & WoLs.

Your thoughts?

[MikkoAkure]

Pretty sure it was apparent there were only Twelve gods worshipped by Eorzeans (plus the beastmen’s gods) and it turned out

the whole thing was made up anyway and they weren’t really gods but creations made by an elder primal based on her friends. Anything in the religions beyond what was written on the Onphalos stele was just invented by people.

Not really any room for any of that.

[TempusFinis]

Pretty sure it was apparent there were only Twelve gods worshipped by Eorzeans (plus the beastmen’s gods) and it turned out

the whole thing was made up anyway and they weren’t really gods but creations made by an elder primal based on her friends. Anything in the religions beyond what was written on the Onphalos stele was just invented by people.

Not really any room for any of that.

This begs the question, "Where are these hellbound armour sets coming from?". These hellbound armour sets and mounts can't come from thin air...

Based on the FF14 fandom site, there should be six realms of hell,

1) Hell of Fire Realm
2) Hell of Water Realm
3) Hell of Wind Realm
4) Hell of Ice Realm
5) Hell of Lightning Realm
6) Hell of Earth Realm
7) Seventh Hell watching over the 6 Realms mentioned

These hellbound armours sets and mounts could reasonably represent the Gods of Hell (GoH) in FF14.

Your thoughts?

[Jeeqbit]

The way I always saw it, we had 7 hells because we had 7 shards. Because of the 14 shards, 7 had calamities and no longer exist. The one which presides over all would thus be the source.

The way I also see it, is that Pandaemonium is meant to be the hell, hence why they went as far as having us enter it via the Aetherial Sea near the Atiascope.

In there, we of course fought many bosses.

[NegativeS]

The way I also see it, is that Pandaemonium is meant to be the hell, hence why they went as far as having us enter it via the Aetherial Sea near the Atiascope.

That's what I was thinking as well, and fitting for it to have been run parallel to Myths of the Realm. Guess Yoshi was really desperate to get all the mythology stuff out of the way in Endwalker, so he could make room for...?

[TempusFinis]

Does anyone remember the Diablo fight in Shadowbringers? Can you imagine fighting this large, hellish monster in Realms of Hell without the allagans giving him a very weakened body vassal?









I feel that it would indeed be the "end of times" for Eorzea, if the Gods of Hell were unleashed and brought armageddon into this world against the WoLs....

[TempusFinis]

The way I always saw it, we had 7 hells because we had 7 shards. Because of the 14 shards, 7 had calamities and no longer exist. The one which presides over all would thus be the source.

The way I also see it, is that Pandaemonium is meant to be the hell, hence why they went as far as having us enter it via the Aetherial Sea near the Atiascope.

In there, we of course fought many bosses.

I felt like in Endwalker, Pandaemonium was a horrible experiment that went bad. The ancients had captured and caged different monsters from different worlds, and Athena was trying to achieve godhood. So, I felt that it really did not cover the Realms of Hell or even the origins of Diablo. If that was indeed the intention of the developers, it leaves open a lot of questions...like where did these hellish monsters come from?

[Daralii]

I felt like in Endwalker, Pandaemonium was a horrible experiment that went bad. The ancients had captured and caged different monsters from different worlds, and Athena was trying to achieve godhood. So, I felt that it really did not cover the Realms of Hell or even the origins of Diablo. If that was indeed the intention of the developers, it leaves open a lot of questions...like where did these hellish monsters come from?

Diabolos is just a high-ranking Voidsent that managed to reach the Source at some point, and the 13th isn't any of the Seven Hells. The Diablo Armament is emulating him, but it's just a magitech weapon that is entirely Allagan and Garlean. Pandemonium could have inspired the mythos of the Hells in the same way that Venat's coworkers and their observation post became the Twelve and Heavens, but we're unlikely to ever know for sure because CS3 just got bored of the Source's worldbuilding and mythology. There's also the Ridorana Cataract, which is a gaping hole in the ocean that is supposed to lead down to the Hells, but I don't think it's been mentioned in any capacity since Stormblood.

[Voidmage]

I felt like in Endwalker, Pandaemonium was a horrible experiment that went bad. The ancients had captured and caged different monsters from different worlds, and Athena was trying to achieve godhood. So, I felt that it really did not cover the Realms of Hell or even the origins of Diablo. If that was indeed the intention of the developers, it leaves open a lot of questions...like where did these hellish monsters come from?

The hellish monsters are most of the time Voidsent or before that were either simple monsters or old constructs of the Ancients.
Also we know that Aether can corrupt and mutate beings.

The seven hells most probably don't exist because the entire creation myth is a lie. According to the Eorzea Encyclopedia they were believed to be byproducts of creating the seven heavens (and we do know that those were simply the territories of the not-primal gods mortals cached a glimpse here and there).
The armor and such you mentioned were probably just made in that image just as the WHM and BLM artifact gear was, representing them but not more.

I do wish we could have seen more or at least remained obscure in the truth of things.
As it stands now though, the whole thing is removed from the game in favour of getting rid of loose ends and explaining everything.

The only way I could imagine them now is that the seven heavens and hells might exist through the believes of the people in Eorzea given that we basically need a God machine to manage all those prayers or that there truly does exist some hellish realm beyond everyone else.
There is always the chance of the writers picking such things up again for an interesting story but right now it doesn't seem that they are interested in actual world building much.

There's also the Ridorana Cataract, which is a gaping hole in the ocean that is supposed to lead down to the Hells, but I don't think it's been mentioned in any capacity since Stormblood.

For all we know at least, going downwards does result in strange and "afterlife" kinda things like PotD, Antitower or the Sharlayan Aetherial Sea entrance.
So who knows, maybe something does exist below the aethersoup down there but the writers seem pretty disinterested anyway.

[Astronis]

The only way I could imagine them now is that the seven heavens and hells might exist through the believes of the people in Eorzea given that we basically need a God machine to manage all those prayers or that there truly does exist some hellish realm beyond everyone else.

That's probably exactly how the seven hells and the seven heavens exist; Eorzeans seem to be mighty capable of believing things into existence. Probably unintentional creation magic, to be honest. Though to be fair, even Athena and Lahabrea invoke them, so it's not outside possibility that there really are some sort of seven heavens and hells, somewhere.

As far as the hellhound armor and all that goes, I'm assuming the designs come from Eorzeans seeing voidsent. Voidsent literally run around towns handing out cookies, so it's not like it's unusual for an Eorzean to have seen one.