FFXIV Mobile is doing poorly, global release likely shelved

[Burmecia]

Like maybe western players are more likely to value cosmetics over things that affect gameplay?

don't quote me on these, these are just my observations but:
western players generally really don't seem to like p2w, whereas CN and KR especially seem to not have problem with it at all.
i'm not so sure about JP but they're probably in middle somewhere.

there is also that west likes pc as platform, asia likes mobile and consoles cliche. mobile and pc games are, uh, monetised bit different from one another, usually, typically.

[Astronis]

don't quote me on these, these are just my observations but:
western players generally really don't seem to like p2w, whereas CN and KR especially seem to not have problem with it at all.

Part of it has to do with internet access as I understand. Western players have monthly subscription access to as much internet as they desire during that month, whereas in China and Korea, it's much more common to buy internet access in small chunks. So obviously, if you buy an hour of internet access, you want to maximize what you get out of your hour. Waiting for Gaius to yap and other time-gated standard MMO whatsits is a waste of money under that kind of internet access paradigm, while it's not that big of a deal when you have a whole month of internet for one price.

It makes a lot more sense to be OK with pay to win vs time-gated to win if you have to pay to play in small increments. Keeps you from having to pay many times for the time-gate vs just the once.

[Absurdity]

don't quote me on these, these are just my observations but:
western players generally really don't seem to like p2w, whereas CN and KR especially seem to not have problem with it at all.

I've heard somewhere before that it's something of a status symbol for them. Just like people in the west like to buy an overpriced luxury car if they have too much money, they like to flaunt that they can afford to pay to win.

[Thaciscokidd]

I've heard somewhere before that it's something of a status symbol for them. Just like people in the west like to buy an overpriced luxury car if they have too much money, they like to flaunt that they can afford to pay to win.

This^

It doesn't even have to be pay to win. It's like when western LoL players tried to Boycott the $500 Ari skin only to have it sell 2000 units(1 Million USD) at a limited South Korean event in 4 hours then turn around and make 2.3 Million USD in one hour in China during a stream promoting it.

[DiaDeem]

I really couldn't care less if I tried.

Also, and because people just don't seem to understand this truth: PC XIV has a brutal amount tech debt that carried over from both 1.0 and the PS3 days. Many of the features people want simply can't be implemented without remaking entire sections of the code. Oh no, don't get me wrong: They absolutely should be working on that, but I don't think people realize how much of a massive spaghetti bowl PC XIV actually is and the amount of work it takes to fix it.

Please don't compare it to a mobile version of Unreal 4 that carries non of tech debt from more than a decade ago, because it's silly and makes you look silly.

[SigmaOZ]

Ha ha ha!.


Maybe it's time for Square Enix to start developing their next Final Fantasy Online.


XIV won't last forever.

[Avenheit]

fingers crossed the hairstyles they added get put in the main game

[ReynTime]

I really couldn't care less if I tried.

Also, and because people just don't seem to understand this truth: PC XIV has a brutal amount tech debt that carried over from both 1.0 and the PS3 days. Many of the features people want simply can't be implemented without remaking entire sections of the code. Oh no, don't get me wrong: They absolutely should be working on that, but I don't think people realize how much of a massive spaghetti bowl PC XIV actually is and the amount of work it takes to fix it.

Please don't compare it to a mobile version of Unreal 4 that carries non of tech debt from more than a decade ago, because it's silly and makes you look silly.

There is no technical debt carried over from 1.0.
https://youtu.be/ge32wNPaJKk?t=560

[Tersi82]

Hopefully they give us the awesome hairstyles and glamours and dyeable mount before it tanks completely

[Saraide]

There is no technical debt carried over from 1.0.
https://youtu.be/ge32wNPaJKk?t=560

Of course it has massive technical debt from the failure of 1.0. ARR had to be quickly done to turn the thing around and corners had to be cut. Just because the client doesnt have any legacy code anymore (did they ever confirm this for the server side stuff btw?) doesnt mean there isnt technical debt.