Living Dead should negate all external healing as an additional effect

[Carighan]

The suggestion doesn't change it's identity, it's called Living Dead, it's a way for Dark Knight to revive in a way without healer's help.

That was already done, you get a 1500 potency heal for each GCD you attack with after it procs. You can self-revive nowadays.

[Carighan]

Using superbolide and right clicking the invuln to kill yourself was the biggest appeal of the skill and they ruined it.

I know!

/ac Superbollide
/statusoff Superbollide
/p A TEST OF YOUR REFLEXES!

[ShionAsrai]

That was already done, you get a 1500 potency heal for each GCD you attack with after it procs. You can self-revive nowadays.

I can't tell if it's an attempt at making a joke for the sake of argument or just oblivious to the fact that we're not talking about the healing potency.

Dark knights need to learn there is a right and wrong time to use living dead

Yes, we agree but i don't think that's the point being discussed as the ones who wants the improvement are asking it due to and here i quote

Because well, I can't count the amount of healer (even after posting in the chat about it!) who especially do everything to not let me die (and sometimes lets me die anyway after Living Dead runs out).

and not some i wanna be main character kind of reason as if that was it then there's many other jobs that can give that feeling if played correctly, thanks for reading.

I don't think i have enough time in my life to waste it by discussing these things 7/24 here, i wish the healers good luck on discussing a tank ability while self projecting about main character syndrome. I'm feeling like maining Warrior now.

[Supersnow845]

Yes, we agree but i don't think that's the point being discussed as the ones who wants the improvement are asking it due to and here i quote and not some i wanna be main character kind of reason as if that was it then there's many other jobs that can give that feeling if played correctly, thanks for reading.



I can't tell if it's an attempt at making a joke for the sake of argument or just oblivious to the fact that we're not talking about the healing potency. I'm feeling like maining Warrior now. Good luck with this topic over a tank ability that shouldn't even have concerned the healers, i'm out.

It’s only “not what’s being discussed” if you are adamant that the healer doing anything (whether conscious triage or not understanding the ability) that stops LD from going off is somehow a failing of LD. That’s the point you are getting stuck on. It’s not a failure of LD’s design that the healer didn’t allow it to go off or tried to stop it then you died after

[ShionAsrai]

It’s not a failure of LD’s design that the healer didn’t allow it to go off or tried to stop it then you died after

Again, we agree, which is why an ability that requires the opposite of cooperation from the healer shouldn't allow the healer to cooperate while the ability is active but i really don't care about this topic when the suggestion let alone the point isn't understood, you can make your point on this topic as you want. I just wanted to clarify that the first sentence on the last part you're quoting isn't a reply to you but to the person that i quoted there.

[Supersnow845]

Again, we agree, which is why an ability that requires the opposite of cooperation from the healer shouldn't allow the healer to cooperate while the ability is active but i really don't care about this topic when the suggestion let alone the point isn't understood, you can make your point on this topic as you want. I just wanted to clarify that the first sentence on the last part you're quoting isn't a reply to you but to the person that i quoted there.

“Again we agree”

No. No we dont

[Carighan]

I can't tell if it's an attempt at making a joke for the sake of argument or just oblivious to the fact that we're not talking about the healing potency.

Oh sorry, I missed the revive part.

That'd be neat, like WoW Shaman Ancestral? So like instead of an actual invuln, a Dark Knight **would** die, and then just self-rezz to get back into the fight? (bonus points if the all threat is restored on using the self-rezz)

That'd be super-thematic, too!

[Reginald_Cain]

Guess I'm just biased or projecting but I really like the current iteration of living dead as it's the only tank cool down that makes you fulfil a criteria instead of being a generic you no die now button. I like that the lifesteal on walking dead encourages aggresion and retaliation. The blackest night and living dead feel like the only retaliatory tank buttons besides vengeance now that paladin has lost shield swipe. I hope going into next expansion dark knight leans further into a counter attack style tank since it uses a great sword and has buttons in its current kit that push it that way.