Worqor Chirteh feedback

[aereniil]

This mode is irredeemable.
This whole mode is a just a mistake tbh.
If you think Frontline cannot be any shittier, they come up with Worqor Shitteh.

Interesting. How blissful I must hate that I like Frontline, then x)

Seriously, maybe it's good to see some variety for everyone joining this mode, even if that's their worst time or that they don't care about it.

In my opinion, the new map is just another try to get new players into this content. And for the best and the worst, for now at least, I think SE did well on this bargain
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Each person has their own preference, after all, as I find less enjoyable maps than this one (Secure or the more enjoyable Shatter) and much more fun maps than Worqor (Onsal Hakair and Seal Rock).

[tsuchii]

Interesting. How blissful I must hate that I like Frontline, then x)

Seriously, maybe it's good to see some variety for everyone joining this mode, even if that's their worst time or that they don't care about it.

In my opinion, the new map is just another try to get new players into this content. And for the best and the worst, for now at least, I think SE did well on this bargain
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Each person has their own preference, after all, as I find less enjoyable maps than this one (Secure or the more enjoyable Shatter) and much more fun maps than Worqor (Onsal Hakair and Seal Rock).

It's bullshit. It is just what it is. It's an RNG mess. You can try as hard as you can and the match can still decide who wins at the end. It's honestly even worse than Shatter and I didn't think that was even remotely possibly.

It's not satisfying sweating your ass off only to lose by RNG and by far this mode is worst offender of them all. I'm almost done grinding it and fucking hell I'm not touching this hot pile of shit ever again once I get the mount.

Honestly, I'm just really salty and really frustrated. It probably among the FL modes with the least control from the players. Especially towards the end when the RNG of the placements literally just decides who wins. It's all up to chance. Chance being a huge factor in a competitive mode is sending me tbh. I still think they should just retire Frontline in general when Rival Wings exist, which is heaps better, less reliant on RNG and FAIR. 1v1v1vMap is just a terrible thing to play.

[aereniil]

It's bullshit. It is just what it is. It's an RNG mess. You can try as hard as you can and the match can still decide who wins at the end. It's honestly even worse than Shatter and I didn't think that was even remotely possibly.

It's not satisfying sweating your ass off only to lose by RNG and by far this mode is worst offender of them all. I'm almost done grinding it and fucking hell I'm not touching this hot pile of shit ever again once I get the mount.

Honestly, I'm just really salty and really frustrated. It probably among the FL modes with the least control from the players. Especially towards the end when the RNG of the placements literally just decides who wins. It's all up to chance. Chance being a huge factor in a competitive mode is sending me tbh. I still think they should just retire Frontline in general when Rival Wings exist, which is heaps better, less reliant on RNG and FAIR. 1v1v1vMap is just a terrible thing to play.

Your frustration is understandable. But then, will Square Enix ever remove Frontline or fundamentally successfully change it (core mechanics such as objectives/RNG, number of players, idk) ?
Unfortunately, from what I've gleaned, Rival Wings looks fun too but more dead right now (at least on my DC, unless you join some dedicated community server which organise/plan games, such as PvP Revival). So for us and maybe for SE, it's like "Frontline in its current state + being played by players with some help of roulette" (and the new map did bring in players, for all its flaws) vs "less often played fun Rival Wings which is spared from roulette for the best and the worst".

[ChrysOCE]

Lol people who glaze on rival wings. If it was as good as everyone says it is, people would queue it, regardless and it would pop at all times. It only ever happens during mogtomes.

[aereniil]

Lol people who glaze on rival wings. If it was as good as everyone says it is, people would queue it, regardless and it would pop at all times. It only ever happens during mogtomes.

Is RW so bad ? I found it not so bad, but it's indeed dead.

But back to topic, Worqor is at most an average and sometimes fun map that had some potential at the beginning.
The A/S ranks spawn positions/algorithm spoil more than it gives fun. The map further incentivize people to afk on nodes.
However, at least at the start, the layout and design had some potential and fun opportunities to exploit (like the three-way middle bridge or the verticality design that hide an incoming ambush or create stressful "enemy above" situations). And I find the mechanics during the game interesting, often useful (even either life-saving or stessful in a stimulating way at times), and refreshing compared to other maps.
And like it or not, no matter the reason or the "new fresh, always up map" effect, people played it over and over for weeks, so maybe that filled the objectives for SE.

But nowadays, I start to see people moving away from this map (at the benefit of other maps), so it may be done in the future.

[Aidorouge]

Lol people who glaze on rival wings. If it was as good as everyone says it is, people would queue it, regardless and it would pop at all times. It only ever happens during mogtomes.

People do indeed only queue for PVP when rewards are involved it seems. Frontlines its self lives or dies because of the roulette bonus, not because that many people actually enjoy doing it.

Crystalline Conflict likewise sees activity because its "quick" rewards depending on which team doesn't care about pushing the crystal that match, and of course Ranked has suffered for years due to a lack of incentive to play it at all for a lot of people.

[ChrysOCE]

People do indeed only queue for PVP when rewards are involved it seems. Frontlines its self lives or dies because of the roulette bonus, not because that many people actually enjoy doing it.

Crystalline Conflict likewise sees activity because its "quick" rewards depending on which team doesn't care about pushing the crystal that match, and of course Ranked has suffered for years due to a lack of incentive to play it at all for a lot of people.

you know there are a fair amount of people who queue after they have got their roulette bonus. Just look at the weekly standings. Enough that I'd say Frontlines would continue, even without the initial roulette bonus

[Aidorouge]

you know there are a fair amount of people who queue after they have got their roulette bonus. Just look at the weekly standings. Enough that I'd say Frontlines would continue, even without the initial roulette bonus

I have my doubts that Frontline queues will remain healthy if the roulette bonus ever disappeared when its literally the only reason a majority of people touch the mode at all.

[Valence]

you know there are a fair amount of people who queue after they have got their roulette bonus. Just look at the weekly standings. Enough that I'd say Frontlines would continue, even without the initial roulette bonus

Frontline used to pop on its own before it had any daily. Most of the time we got the 8v8v8 version in the afternoon or even later, but in prime time during evenings you'd also see the 72 player version come up at least one time out of two you'd queue.

The daily was an attempt from SE to shove more players into the mode while getting rid of the 24 player version. Yoshida even confirmed live back then and I quote: "We're satisfied with the player amount for FL now so we don't see a reason to keep the 24 players version".

[ChrysOCE]

I have my doubts that Frontline queues will remain healthy if the roulette bonus ever disappeared when its literally the only reason a majority of people touch the mode at all.

There are at least 97 people on Behemoth that are listed in the weekly standings. You must play 10 matches to be listed. 8 worlds on primal. True, maybe it wont be as active with sometimes 2-3 matches happening at the same time. Maybe the active time for pvp will contract. But, despite the balance, map and other issues, people want to and enjoy pvp and they enjoy Frontlines. Otherwise, they would be getting their pvp fix from CC. Or RW (seriously, if you enjoy that mode, queue up. If there are enough, it will pop. And I'd be happy for you).