I have 1 problem with FF14 races.

[Vanillabeaniee]

Since Yoshi P said it's up to us the players if we want a new race then it would be cool to have a race dog like or even like sheeps but that loooks humanoid

[Burmecia]

Oh yeah, dog people~~

I mean, lupin would have been cool race to have but I can like without.
Because the races we get... past HW seem to arrive in lil creaky state.

[RedLolly]

Oh nice that's great news - but people were saying again more recently that they doubled down on it or something. I have no source, so, grain of salt, but I really, really hope I'm wrong because personally I would like more races to be added to the game, as that's what excites me far more than new jobs.

I genuinely had no idea why there was a huge spark of 'well now that they're never adding any races again...' recently, given I knew about what you're mentioning, but it made me assume that something more recent/new came out on the matter (again - I hope I'm wrong.)

Several interviews from a month or two ago had Yoshi-P specifically discuss details regarding the Dawntrail graphical update and upcoming server update will allow the devs to expand the *current* races and overall options. Specifically he talks about how many texture layers we can add to faces could be expanded.

Spoilers for 7.4, but Halmarut is a green scaled Au Ra. It's not like with Yugiri where she has some unique pattern on her scales that add some extra color to her face, Halmarut is VERY distinctly green, and has a pale to dark ombre to what scales we see on her face and hands and especially her horns.

This has the new big theory that we may be getting a third clan per race or having clans as a limitation abolished entirely within what players can do when making their characters. There are some official race traits listed in material like the encyclopedias that aren't available in game, too. IE, Moon Keeper Miqo'te are supposed to have longer ears than Sun Seekers. They do not on in-game models.

So, at least with 8.0, it looks like instead of a new race, everyone will be getting a nice update. But we have zero clue on if that's true or what extent of it we're getting if true.

[VeyaAkemi]

This has the new big theory that we may be getting a third clan per race

Which makes me wonder how it would work at all, see, something that gets scarcely talked about is that the two clan system is meant to be thematic to the game, Astral and Umbral, Light and Darkness, and the three races I feel represent this the best are Miqo, Au Ra, and Hrothgar, Miqos being directly Sun and Moon-themed, Au Ra are similarly day and night themed with the legend of Azem for Raen and Nhaama for Xaela, and Hrothgar being called "Helion", as in Helios, the Greek personification of the sun, and while "The Lost" don't directly invoke night, it still invokes a dark tone to fall in line with darkness. So what, is the expectation that they will drop the theming entirely, they will find a third aspect to the expected duality, or that any new clans will still represent Astral and Umbral?

It should be also noted that due to her true nature, we have every reason to believe that Halmarut may be a special and therefor unique case, and not representative of any other Au Ra.

[Thaciscokidd]

Since someone already said the best race (Burmecian!)

Someone here already said Gria and as much as I loved them in FFT I don't think we need another Hrothgar/Miqo'te situation.

But instead I'll take a helm slot problem and raise you a boot(and possibly chest)slot problem. A harpy race would be cool. We have three good examples of XIV harpies in Garuda(female and male version) and Meteion for a more playable character friendly model.

The head wings and bird feet could stay and the wings either be scrapped, made as flair for out of combat,or shrunk.

[Aidorouge]

This has the new big theory that we may be getting a third clan per race or having clans as a limitation abolished entirely within what players can do when making their characters. There are some official race traits listed in material like the encyclopedias that aren't available in game, too. IE, Moon Keeper Miqo'te are supposed to have longer ears than Sun Seekers. They do not on in-game models.

Man, would it kill them to give Seekers SOME kind of unique trait? I'm already eternally jealous over Keeper fangs.

[RedLolly]

Man, would it kill them to give Seekers SOME kind of unique trait? I'm already eternally jealous over Keeper fangs.

You say that but Seekers are so much more popular because of the eyes and more natural feeling skin tones. But yes, I get it.

It's also cannon that Seekers are generally stronger than Keepers, so making them have the option to be more muscular would be in line. My guess is it's a nod to the Nuhn family system with only the best men being a harem's patriarch, thus making for better genes?


Also, as far as clan traits go, Lalafell have a -terrible- deal in what differences actually exist. You can dig in and find a few quirks with brow shapes and jewelry, but the only notable difference is the eyes and that's all.

In ShB, I recall the un-helmed dwarves we saw in the flashbacks could have either eye type in both villages, so it wasn't even a line between the Tholls and Groggs. It was SO minor the devs didn't even make the effort to split them that way.

[Aidorouge]

You say that but Seekers are so much more popular because of the eyes and more natural feeling skin tones. But yes, I get it.

It's also cannon that Seekers are generally stronger than Keepers, so making them have the option to be more muscular would be in line. My guess is it's a nod to the Nuhn family system with only the best men being a harem's patriarch, thus making for better genes?


Also, as far as clan traits go, Lalafell have a -terrible- deal in what differences actually exist. You can dig in and find a few quirks with brow shapes and jewelry, but the only notable difference is the eyes and that's all.

In ShB, I recall the un-helmed dwarves we saw in the flashbacks could have either eye type in both villages, so it wasn't even a line between the Tholls and Groggs. It was SO minor the devs didn't even make the effort to split them that way.

Maybe Seekers are popular as a choice for male Miqo'te players, but that's probably more due to their lore than actual physical traits. Same reason a see a lot more "Nuhn" than "Tia" out there as last names, lol. I feel like I rarely run into other female Seekers though, with most female Miqo'te being Keepers instead because of the big doe eyes, cute little fangs, and longer tails (which can be fluffy). I've even had other Keeper females remark that I "look good for a Seeker female" because I guess so few of them really bother with it in the character creator once they see all the little things Keepers have compared to Seekers that make them stand out. (I can't even recall if only Seekers get the "lion tail" as an option of if Keepers can have one too.)

I wouldn't be adverse to having Seekers being more toned/taller though, as I took them to be the "hardier" of the two clans living in mostly deserts versus the "sneakier" Keepers in their forests. As well, I always envisioned my catgirl as more of the "mature amazon" type versus the "cuddly uwu" kind when it comes to anime tropes, lol. I'm not expecting Roegadyn or Hrothgar levels of muscle and height though, just enough where you could visibly tell a Seeker from a Keeper, while letting Keepers have their longer ears too since that's a thing they're supposed to have it seems.

And I admit I'm not too familiar with clan differences outside Miqo'te/Hrothgar/Viera/Au Ra because those are the only races I've messed with in the character creator (and even then only with females). When it comes to telling Hyur/Elezen/Roegadyn/Lalafell apart, I can see it with Hyur due to Highlanders but the other three... eh, I think they get different skin tones, maybe some different face choices between each other? Incidentally, I remember as well when people thought Viera would be the opposite of Au Ra, with tall females and smol males, but the height difference ended up not being all that much I think.

[Cygnia]

Some of the distinctions are to be found in the NPC model choices, like duskwights having longer ears than wildwood despite both possessing the same ear options.
As I have posted before, I feel there's more design space in plant/tree humans given we are unlikely to have anything too outlandishly non-standard; the animal/human merger has realised its limit in hrothgar, methinks. If Sephirot's people ever become a playable race I'd fantasia for the first time ever with these bottles that have been burning a hole in my pocket since ARR.

[TheRealDesastr]

Several interviews from a month or two ago had Yoshi-P specifically discuss details regarding the Dawntrail graphical update and upcoming server update will allow the devs to expand the *current* races and overall options. Specifically he talks about how many texture layers we can add to faces could be expanded.

Spoilers for 7.4, but Halmarut is a green scaled Au Ra. It's not like with Yugiri where she has some unique pattern on her scales that add some extra color to her face, Halmarut is VERY distinctly green, and has a pale to dark ombre to what scales we see on her face and hands and especially her horns.

This has the new big theory that we may be getting a third clan per race or having clans as a limitation abolished entirely within what players can do when making their characters. There are some official race traits listed in material like the encyclopedias that aren't available in game, too. IE, Moon Keeper Miqo'te are supposed to have longer ears than Sun Seekers. They do not on in-game models.

So, at least with 8.0, it looks like instead of a new race, everyone will be getting a nice update. But we have zero clue on if that's true or what extent of it we're getting if true.

Oh neat, that's good news then. I've got a touch more hope then upon reading that, cool. I'm very glad to be proven wrong.

I think subraces would be a very cool idea. Someone in this thread earlier said to do the animal ears and tail thing on the Miqo and... that's actually a pretty good idea. Give more faces and tail/ear options, I'd say, and do a thing like 'allied races' but for sub races in WoW. I'd loooove to make a kitsune character, and if they applied that to Miqo as a sort of sub race, that would be cool. Would it be viable lorewise? I don't know nor think so (as they're distinct animals ofc) but perhaps just using the 'skeleton' for it could be great.

Anyway, I think there's many possibilities and ways they could do it, so I'm happy to hear that door isn't closed.