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  1. #1
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    FFXIV DEVS NEED TO STOP CLOTH USER FAVOURTISM

    Crystal Conflict and any other form of close quarter PVP is not fun due to out of the stratosphere misbalancing between the jobs.

    In 7.1 Astrologian was released in such a broken state that the devs forgot to internally test it. This did not affect the flow of things, due to the forced 50% win rate, enforced by the match making algorithm. Astrologians now are getting away with having a Dash ability in their kit that also shields them.

    Black Mage is am an omnipotent job as of 7.41:
    - It has the most damage in the game,
    - the most mitigation in the game,
    - the most sustain in the game,
    - it goes through guard,
    - not only does the job have excess raw damage, it also has damage over time,
    - Lethargy is a Limit Break level power ability, spammable every 15 seconds,
    - it has reflect, because why not!

    Pictomancer is an omnipotent Job as well:
    - It has extremely high burst,
    - the ability to stack ability animations to exploit job further,
    - it has too much crowd control,
    - it can heal too much,
    - it can escape too easily,
    - it can tank a whole team,
    - PCT can controls area better than Sage, so Sage continues to be one of the least played and least enjoyable jobs,
    - not only does it have crazy high damage, it also has damage over times because why not!

    White Mage:
    - White Mage is still getting away with having mana burn in their Polymorph ( Miracle of Nature)
    - White Mages can still dictate the flow of the game by staying alive enough for their limit breaks to start making a huge team difference,
    - their dash gives whole team 10% damage reduction,
    - their Limit Break 'grants regen to self and nearby party members within 30 yalms', the quickest LB charge to date,
    - all you have to do with WHM is basically stay alive and provide team wide difference at no cost!

    SCH:
    - Scholar makes too much of a team difference with their constant AOE shielding, without and on top of that, they don't just sustain their team, they can also break objective by having a Guard Break ability.
    - It is fundamentally a bad design for a job to be able to have so much control of a team's potential, because then this feeds into the match making, giving the Scholar heavier team mates,
    - the job has unmatched shielding, unmatched healing reduction for the longest duration, because it can easily be spread and it lasts for too long! 'Biolytic Effect: Reduces target's HP recovered by healing actions by 15%
    Duration: 12s'


    Can we please start getting some communication from the devs. This mode is now nearly 5 years old and it would be nice if we could find a middle grown and start putting some love into an MMORPG that we love and want to play!

    Please consider your other player base groups and stop focusing on just your main ones that yield you results for the least amount of effort. Do not alienate!
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    Honourable Mentions:

    MNK is another omnipotent Job:
    - MNK now has range, why is it keeping the HP lead?
    - it has too much hp for a bruiser,
    - it does too much damage,
    - now it is long range,
    - it has empowered aoe,
    - it has long range limit break with hard crowd control
    - the passive knock back damage is too strong
    - FFXIV devs have essentially kept Monk as 'the token melee strong job' to try and gaslight players into not thinking about how much they have overbuffed and over tuned cloth users!

    MCH:
    MCH is another job that's not been internally tested, lol, I know you don't play your own game, but anyway:
    - This job does way too much damage and the kit lets it hold a point quite well, the damage is so oppressive that it is nearly impossible to duel one for Crystal Control (unless you're one of the overtuned jobs)!

    I want to see some passion and some effort put into this mode. Crystal Conflict has the potential to be a brilliant mode and to keep people playing during down times between patches, but the rewards, the balancing, the effort, the communication is just not there.

    I am here giving you feedback and I don't get paid for it, I even pay a monthly fee for AI Slop patch notes.
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    Last edited by Bureda; 02-17-2026 at 04:17 AM.

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    Reginald Cain
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    Wait people take pvp seriously? Jk I know a lot do but for real it's such a cluster and communication is shaky at best so I dont bother. Job imbalance is offset by morons, team mate gap and trash network infrastructure.
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    I'm like crit melds fine, I wonder when they'll be me mine! penta meld then i hit rewind, to watch it slot one more time and I got thit SODA!

    -Reginald Pain #1 on the fa mic, blessed with Hydaelyns might, I'll kill ya on sight... *POW*

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    Laguz Djt-marouc
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bureda View Post
    Pictomancer is an omnipotent Job as well:
    - It has extremely high burst,
    - the ability to stack ability animations to exploit job further,
    - it has too much crowd control,
    - it can heal too much,
    - it can escape too easily,
    - it can tank a whole team,
    - PCT can controls area better than Sage, so Sage continues to be one of the least played and least enjoyable jobs,
    - not only does it have crazy high damage, it also has damage over times because why not!
    After I read this, I had to double-take as a joke, because this is quite hilarious to hear.
    Pictomancer only has a burst every minute, which not only resets if he dies, but any pressure on the class makes it deal literally no damage.
    "Oh, it can heal too much!" So many classes can, the fact that Picto's survivability is its strongest point is not exactly a quality, because it does not deal damage enough to endure a stalemate against whoever he is fighting.
    How can you say Picto has a 38k burst each 1min, which requires you to rotate and paint 4 total motifs, that can EASILY be mitigated, when a class like Dragoon deals 35k, ranged, with 20 second cd?
    Until Picto actually deal any burst, the Dragoon already utilizes his 4x.

    Not to mention Smudge giving you Quick Sketch IS ACTUALLY A PUNISHMENT to the Picto. Because you'll paint a quick motif and be locked in the 2.8 recast GCD, which literally renders ALL your spells useless, so you can't even use that to mitigate painting or have some quick dmg burst. The class design is such an absolute dumpster fire as it punishes you too much for ever deciding to play it, that it even feels like you are griefing your team by picking it.
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    Sunie Dakwhil
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    AST, PCT and SCH being broken has been a problem since 7.1. AST top tier pick for solo ranked, SCH for LPs especially (alongside PLD).

    WHM is currently considered low tier by most people I talk to, BLM is fine, it's just lethargy that's carrying the job (and people still don't know that bursting the flaming BLM is actually a good idea, if you force them into ice they become useless). MCH is a lopsided design, too much damage and too little survivability imo: at crystal+ just dive the MCH and kill it, problem solved every time (unless they have a pocket PLD/AST as usual).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bureda View Post


    Can we please start getting some communication from the devs. This mode is now nearly 5 years old and it would be nice if we could find a middle grown and start putting some love into an MMORPG that we love and want to play!

    Please consider your other player base groups and stop focusing on just your main ones that yield you results for the least amount of effort. Do not alienate!


    Sorry to say, but reading through your demands.. some of them (very few) i agree with. Others come down to, and i swear im not saying this to be mean, skill issue. Before you blame a job for being broken (the term shouldnt be used to loosely) make sure that you, and the team you are playing with, actually work to counter their strengths with your own. Once thats the case only then can you objectively judge a job to be broken. For example you say: "- White Mages can still dictate the flow of the game by staying alive enough for their limit breaks to start making a huge team difference" - then kill them or bully them hard so they dont have the chance to do that?

    I'm sorry id rather have a meta and imbalance - to an extent - it really makes pvp a breath of fresh air when the entire game is 2min meta bullshit
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    Quote Originally Posted by OMGJesuis66 View Post
    After I read this, I had to double-take as a joke, because this is quite hilarious to hear.
    Pictomancer only has a burst every minute, which not only resets if he dies, but any pressure on the class makes it deal literally no damage.
    "Oh, it can heal too much!" So many classes can, the fact that Picto's survivability is its strongest point is not exactly a quality, because it does not deal damage enough to endure a stalemate against whoever he is fighting.
    How can you say Picto has a 38k burst each 1min, which requires you to rotate and paint 4 total motifs, that can EASILY be mitigated, when a class like Dragoon deals 35k, ranged, with 20 second cd?
    Until Picto actually deal any burst, the Dragoon already utilizes his 4x.

    Not to mention Smudge giving you Quick Sketch IS ACTUALLY A PUNISHMENT to the Picto. Because you'll paint a quick motif and be locked in the 2.8 recast GCD, which literally renders ALL your spells useless, so you can't even use that to mitigate painting or have some quick dmg burst. The class design is such an absolute dumpster fire as it punishes you too much for ever deciding to play it, that it even feels like you are griefing your team by picking it.
    sure.. thats why a lot of meta comps in CC these days have PCT. im sure they do so because it sucks so bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spoo View Post
    Sorry to say, but reading through your demands.. some of them (very few) i agree with. Others come down to, and i swear im not saying this to be mean, skill issue. Before you blame a job for being broken (the term shouldnt be used to loosely) make sure that you, and the team you are playing with, actually work to counter their strengths with your own. Once thats the case only then can you objectively judge a job to be broken. For example you say: "- White Mages can still dictate the flow of the game by staying alive enough for their limit breaks to start making a huge team difference" - then kill them or bully them hard so they dont have the chance to do that?

    I'm sorry id rather have a meta and imbalance - to an extent - it really makes pvp a breath of fresh air when the entire game is 2min meta bullshit
    You're just a better gamer than me. See you in ranked, and show me how it's done.
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    Laguz Djt-marouc
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    Quote Originally Posted by spoo View Post
    sure.. thats why a lot of meta comps in CC these days have PCT. im sure they do so because it sucks so bad.
    Cool, can you show me literally anyone who is a pro with them that can explain step by step how this class works, then?
    Because, as is, Quick Sketch feels like a punishment. Using LB feels like a punishment, given it's an incredibly long animation.
    You have an excellent burst to take one person out, but no dueling capabilities, and incredible vulnerability under pressure.
    Comet and Holy not being an Ability feels horrible too.

    So, either those people are doing some black magic and the class is incredibly non-intuitive to anyone else to pick it up, or the class is unplayable if you have a slight bit of ping, or there are certain devices:tm: that people utilize to go around the glaring network issues + designed class locks, and people just make use of those.

    I'm always willing to hear more! But PvP in this game is quite obscure out of the normal player eye, when it comes to "meta comps" and even class guides, so... I will only believe when I see it and put it into practice. Because I play Picto plenty in CC, for sheer enjoyment of the class itself, and it feels genuine *terrible* to play.
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    Dueling in Crystalline Conflict
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    Secretly had a crush on Mao

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