I'm kind of tired of the "gacha" on the Cosmic Exploration worlds.

[MayuAmakura]

That'd depend upon the rarity of items. Mounts and emotes would probably not sell below a few million for a very long time.

Most of those sell for cheap after a few days since everybody bots crafting relics so we get abundance of items. Including the ones where you need mount tokens. Why would someone farm and waste his time on that when you can buy it mega cheap after 1-2 week?

[Pricia]

I absolutely despise the records. There's nothing fun about spending 5 minutes running around to get junk. Guessing they wanted to give us a reason to go back, especially with only 3 relic steps this time, but man. This is not the way.

[Asari5]

it sounded so interesting and lore heavy when they first talked about it... what a disappointment.

[TeresaFortell]

Most of those sell for cheap after a few days since everybody bots crafting relics so we get abundance of items. Including the ones where you need mount tokens. Why would someone farm and waste his time on that when you can buy it mega cheap after 1-2 week?

I'm referring to the mount and emote that you have to rng drone modules to get, specifically the latest ones. Since it is locked behind this mechanic, the supply of those items would remain quite low for a while, so their prices would remain high.

[Infindox]

The mount and emote is probably never going to dip too low in price because it's a hassle to get the items. And quite frankly I'm happy about it, because it's a source of gil for people willing to do it.

[Ankhira]

The mount and emote is probably never going to dip too low in price because it's a hassle to get the items. And quite frankly I'm happy about it, because it's a source of gil for people willing to do it.

The only thing that's going to happen is that the people with 5 submarine farms will just buy the chests or items and funnel their gil into other players and get their gil back within two weeks, further increasing the amount of gil in circulation.

[GypsumFantastic]

Bumping this back to the front page based on further drone module farming sadness.

Yesterday I gathered and uncovered 79 relics (I must be well over 400 by now by my recollection) and of those 4 were gold and yes, you guessed it I got 4 old hairstyles. It took me 2 hours to uncover them all.

The idea, even if it's gatcha, is fine and it's something a little different for when you're done with your relic tools of choice, but the loot tables being stuffed with worthless items means that I don't break even if I decide to purchase the modules vs hard farm them.

More rewards by 7.X should NEVER have meant stuffing the new OC/CE/DD content with 1 or 2 new items and the rest be literal old crap you'll certainly have (or can buy with pocket change on the MB) if you've played the game for more than an expansion.

[Fawkes]

The devs have always been really bad at RNG and droprates for items, but wow do these drone artifacts suck.

The only way to get either of the new items is from a gold lootbox? The bronze and silver only have old garbage? And even if you get a gold lootbox you might still just get old garbage?

[CCheshire]

The mount and emote is probably never going to dip too low in price because it's a hassle to get the items. And quite frankly I'm happy about it, because it's a source of gil for people willing to do it.

Yeah, the new emote has been around like 14m for a few days now, but I guess I'll probably never get it since that's way over my budget for emotes too.

[AlliciaCapulet]

For me, it's not just one the moon but everywhere, like in OC.

It's nice to have rewards, don't get me wrong. But, look at anything from OC or Cosmic exploration : The price of the rewards gets so low because the rewards are way too easy to get with just pure RNG.

It's been a while since I felt a "Yes! I've finally got it!" moment like I had with my copycat bulb in Eureka. Yes, there is still some RNG here on the drop, but, you actually have to work to make the Cassie fate pop, then, clear it. It gave some sense of engagement back then, a reason to keep going with the relics, while it is highly satisfying when it drops - And more important, the drops are ok so many people got it, but, not way too often that the minion is worthless after 1-2 week.

I love cute mount, cute minion, but, I also love to earn them. To feel that I've worked for them.

And for that, lootboxs are so dissapointing. SE, you don't have to give everything inside a lootbox, and make it so easy to get.

For cosmic exploration, instead of getting drops from gold/silver/bronze artifact... I would have prefer to have chances of actually finding parts of artifacts or a currency that allow me, eventually, to reassemble the parts into something - a mount, minion, emotes, anything. And not something that drop too often. I would be ok with the "you need to farm at least 50 gold artifact for a mount".

RNG is not always a problem, and in MMO you have to put some RNG so people have something to do, but bad rng exists... And giving too much rewards too easily is also bad rng.