Why This Relic is Better Than Endwalker (And Most Expansions)

[Mikey_R]

I don't see a ppint in giving them stats for that given no other relic has done this

The last stage (Physeos) of the Eureka weapons did give an elemental bonus, unfortunately, it comes right after you have already completed everything as it requires clearing the Baldesion Arsenal to upgrade.

However, just because no other weapon has done this, doesn't mean that they have to continue with that mindset. There is no reason why there couldn't be a bonus applied to the weapon for the content it is designed for.

[Valence]

- IT'S NOT A TOME GRIND. We ALL complained about Endwalker. It was tasteless, mindless grinding and putting tomes without much thought. Sure you had the freedom to do whatever you wanted, but we didn't have a sense of accomplishment. The relics didn't feel earned as much as it does now.

I actually don't disagree with your OP, but how is a tome grind any different? You could replace the paste with tomes and it would literally be the same: run daily roulettes or other activities? I'm literally piling up tomes by doing this relic step.

[Voidmage]

The relics are barely tied to OC, other than going into the starting area to talk to the NPC's other than that you can do everything outside of it. I don't see a point in giving them stats for that given no other relic has done this




Gerold is the relic guy, though and it's another part of his story

"Let's not change anything because it has always been like that" is the last thing this game needs.

[Astronis]

Gerold is the relic guy, though and it's another part of his story

Gerolt and WoL's shenanigans are half the reason I even make relics. It's one of the parts of the story where the WoL gets to do something just because he wants to, and his long-term friendship with Gerolt is hilarious.

[TeresaFortell]

Gerolt and WoL's shenanigans are half the reason I even make relics. It's one of the parts of the story where the WoL gets to do something just because he wants to, and his long-term friendship with Gerolt is hilarious.

All this time, my guy still couldn't afford a shirt.

[Astronis]

All this time, my guy still couldn't afford a shirt.

Bro isn't good with money.

[mallleable]

"Incidentally, the Development team has been talking about redesigning the weapon enhancement process, so future series might shift from the current style of quests."

Yeah, I'm in favor of them reworking the relic from the ground up. Like there are improvements to the rest of the game that can be made that end up making a 'relic' somewhat redundant. Like, if they want players to engage with specific parts of the game, then just improve the rewards, and perhaps even have an obtainable weapon as part of the rewards for that specific gameplay. And if they want weapons that are easy to obtain with tomes, then make actual tomes weapons easier to get.

An idea that's been rattling around in my head is one where there are multiple ways of obtaining weapons from different parts of the game, and they can be taken to Gerolt to be upgraded to 'relic' status. Like being able to take a Deep Dungeon weapon or even a savage weapon, and upgrade it to 'relic' status.

[Mercury_Grey]

Gerolt and WoL's shenanigans are half the reason I even make relics. It's one of the parts of the story where the WoL gets to do something just because he wants to, and his long-term friendship with Gerolt is hilarious.

i still luagh at teh final cutscene with gerolt and that one guy in ARR to awaken your zeta relic. Back to back, shit eating smiles. Forced to be nice for every relic you do. Too bad there isn't a cutscene with gerolt once you finish every relic of an expansion

[Voidmage]

Gerolt and WoL's shenanigans are half the reason I even make relics. It's one of the parts of the story where the WoL gets to do something just because he wants to, and his long-term friendship with Gerolt is hilarious.

My problem with Gerold (mind you I like that guy) isn't that I dislike him being there, it's that his story just doesn't go forward.
In Bozja we actually were the closest ever to him accepting Rowena and all that just to now again run in circles with him and the house of Splendors.

I don't mind references and I don't mind them reusing things but after playing for I don't know how many years since HW, I think at least one Expansion could use something else for a change, especially now that we have the Shards and similar. Things that desperately need lore and their own little successes in for example weapons and armor. We even have Shard versions of Gerold that simply aren't used.
We don't even really get references to previous relics in the story as acknowledgement that we, for example, brought Anima to life.

I see Gerold as I see Hildibrand after Stormblood, in desperate need of a small break to gather new ideas and the come back even stronger.

That's my point regarding this.
They rely so heavily on this one running gag and reference that the story of Gerold himself just suffers.
I don't want running gags over story in my story game. The DT relics (and I am someone who like the individual steps and their looks) already have no lore or story around them much and even Gerold is just there because "it's tradition".
I don't want the Relic weapon to be overly hilarious, I want them to have humour but also the deep story that past ones had, good writing.
That includes the Relics but also Gerold.

Right now the relics are the ultimate "included because we have to" content of this game in my opinion when they could be so much more. Why should everything else be allowed to evolve but not the relics just because "it's tradition"?

[Astronis]

My problem with Gerold (mind you I like that guy) isn't that I dislike him being there, it's that his story just doesn't go forward.

It would be nice for it to go forward. Though...going forward would probably involve Rowena being taken down a couple hundred notches, so good luck with that. Side content hell being what it is, amongst other things.

For his shards, see the Endwalker crafter relic quests. Grenoldt absolutely got use.