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  1. #11
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    TeresaFortell's Avatar
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    I thought something would have been put in place for the sake of savage, but as I went into progging m9s, five minutes didn't even pass before our party got hit with a ddos wave, causing 5 people to immediately drop from the server. I was very lucky that my warp saved me from dropping, but the time was still spent waiting for others to come back. I knew the whole thing was bad, but I did not realise it could still be this bad even with savage release.
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    They know it's happening and putting it on the launcher screen. To be honest it's been annoying for the last couple of months, but the last couple of days has been absolutely horrible experience. They need to start looking at better options or taking care of the customer in other ways. It's annoying to start any sort of high level crafting unless it's off hours.

    So... +One to the list of pissed players on DDoS
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    - Just drop some Gil on goodies.

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    The big issue remains that if it's just a butthurt actor irrationally blowing untold resources to make everyone else have a worse time, there isn't actually anything more SE can do beyond passing it off to law authorities or waiting it out.

    Most mitigation work doesn't actually do anything for online games like FFXIV, so I'm not sure if there is more that can be done beyond just transporting all NA server data into cloud servers and sticking to that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TwiceDamned View Post
    Either do something about the DDoS problem or shut it down til you can...
    Then everyone would be complaining "YoU sHuT dOwN mY gAmE i PaiD mY sUb! REEEEEEE!!!"
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  5. #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by RedLolly View Post
    The big issue remains that if it's just a butthurt actor irrationally blowing untold resources to make everyone else have a worse time, there isn't actually anything more SE can do beyond passing it off to law authorities or waiting it out.
    I sincerely doubt it's a DDoS anymore. To maintain consecutive frequent denial of service attacks on this scale for this long it'd take a large group of people or one dude with a TON of computers, likely in multiple locations. It's not like any angry person with a single computer who understands how these attacks work could pull off one of this scale for this long of a timeframe. We can also likely rule out hardware problems, as if that were the case it wouldn't be uniform across every NA datacenter and server. Given how we can almost certainly (but not completely) rule DDoS and hardware failures out it's much more likely that SE's contracted ISP is probably having massive issues. It could even be a DDoS on them rather than SE as it's much more believable that a large group of people would attack an entire ISP than a random MMORPG. Either way though, I suspect the ISP is to blame. Well, them and SE for maintaining radio silence and refusing to get a new one.
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    Last edited by Selsix; 01-08-2026 at 10:48 AM.

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    I love people still thinking its a DDOS in TYOOL 2026. It is literally SE just not paying their bills. The bandwidth gets exceeded and the node just closes and drops all the traffic it's why the VPN's work and keep you connected thanks to their tunnelling.
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    The 14 forums are where awful players go to yell into the void the only issue is that the void then listens.

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    https://krebsonsecurity.com/2026/01/...local-network/

    This is most likely what is causing the issues

    The Kimwolf Botnet that's been running rampant since about march of last year
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    Last edited by Wyldkat99; 01-08-2026 at 10:59 AM.

  8. #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ellona_Andrivari View Post
    I love people still thinking its a DDOS in TYOOL 2026. It is literally SE just not paying their bills. The bandwidth gets exceeded and the node just closes and drops all the traffic it's why the VPN's work and keep you connected thanks to their tunnelling.
    It is literally not there. Just think about when the issues started - during the biggest "trough" of players the game has seen in a long time. It also didn't spike when the population did with the release of the patch, but did precisely when Savage released.

    I sincerely doubt it's a DDoS anymore.
    Given how we can almost certainly (but not completely) rule DDoS and hardware failures out...
    It could even be a DDoS on them rather than SE as it's much more believable that a large group of people would attack an entire ISP than a random MMORPG.
    That...would be a DDoS...and one of the leading theories that's actually plausible.

    I swear, I'm losing brain cells from reading some of the takes in this thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Selsix View Post
    I sincerely doubt it's a DDoS anymore. To maintain consecutive frequent denial of service attacks on this scale for this long it'd take a large group of people or one dude with a TON of computers, likely in multiple locations. It's not like any angry person with a single computer who understands how these attacks work could pull off one of this scale for this long of a timeframe. We can also likely rule out hardware problems, as if that were the case it wouldn't be uniform across every NA datacenter and server. Given how we can almost certainly (but not completely) rule DDoS and hardware failures out it's much more likely that SE's contracted ISP is probably having massive issues. It could even be a DDoS on them rather than SE as it's much more believable that a large group of people would attack an entire ISP than a random MMORPG. Either way though, I suspect the ISP is to blame. Well, them and SE for maintaining radio silence and refusing to get a new one.
    Attackers (as in people initializing the DDOS attack) do not need to own the computers launching the decentralized attack or have physical access to them; they use machines infected by malware/botfarms. There are more than enough of those in the world to do the job. These machines include smartphones, etc. If it were a bunch of requests coming from one location, it would be pretty easy to tell/mitigate. That's why it's "decentralized," so it mixes seamlessly with legitimate traffic.

    I get being frustrated, but this is a great time to learn more about how computers and net infrastructure works, if you want to do any speculating.
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  10. #20
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    Quote Originally Posted by Striker44 View Post
    It is literally not there. Just think about when the issues started - during the biggest "trough" of players the game has seen in a long time. It also didn't spike when the population did with the release of the patch, but did precisely when Savage released.
    I think it has always been like this, even before savage released, and it started when the latest patch dropped. The frequency afterwards has been relatively the same.
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