Multiverse Final Fantasy MMORPG (What could have been)

[SafeOnBlock]

I just used MVC and Marvel/Dc as examples. To show how multiuniverse games aren't inherent failures. As far as story line goes that is relative to how good the writer is not the idea.

I will write up a starting scenario for giggles to give an example of how the beginning of a new game could potentially be represented.

Scenario: You chose RedXIII's (Nanaki's) Race and so you are starting in Cosmo Canyon. (note: warrior is not indicative of the warrior class job but a title dont get that confused.)

You are awoken by the sound of a tap on your door; as you wipe the sleepiness from your eyes you see a man materialize before you. He tells you that today is the full moon and you must go through with your tribal rights to become an adult and to be recognized as a warrior. This is something that all warriors must do.

You follow the man to the top of Cosmo Canyon; as you enter you meet with Nanaki who describes the arduous task that awaits you. (You later find out that Bugenhagen as since passed and Nanaki has become a leader of cosmo canyon) Nanaki tells you that you must go into the Cave of the Gi and retrieve a tier that falls from his fathers monument once a full moon.

As you set out and enter the Cave of Gi you will play through the familar territory and (not kill x amount of monsters) fight your way through the cave riddled with puzzles and treasure chests. You are stopped right before you exit the cave where Nananki's father resides by (the first boss fight) Gi Nattak.

After you defeat Gi Nattak you proceed through the exit and walk up to Nanaki's fathers stone arrow riddled body and wait as the moon arises. You stare into the moonlight and the silence is disturbed by soft footsteps. The alien noise that disturbed the still silence was belonged to Nanaki. Nanaki tells you of the tribes history and gives you a ceremonial pin signifying your acceptance as a warrior and adult in the tribe.

So there ya go. It represents the warrior race that is nanaki throws you directly into combat as most FF titles are known for. I am sure if you wanted to do something like that with the Ronso race you could. Point being is that you can be creative and original with pre established storyline.

If I were to tie multiple universes together I would use something that has existed in a form in all FF games, which would be Crystals that are the 4 elements. Also every FF has a political/corrupt government theme so I would also probably use those themes to centralize a universal theme and tie the story together. Just saying it could be done and done well.


Hell you could even put a CCG in the game and challenge people to games for gil etc. Something like FF8 or FF9. God why not just do that in FFXIV?

I never understood how developers dont think of the most simplistic elements that could make a game go from O.K. to amazing.

[SafeOnBlock]

lol finally write what you guys wanted (an example) and no comment huh....... go figure

[Lienn]

Well, you got a "like" there =P Just because no one replied doesn't mean no one read ^^

[tymora]

Fiosha's story is more fun than yours.

If I were to tie multiple universes together I would use something that has existed in a form in all FF games, which would be Crystals that are the 4 elements. Also every FF has a political/corrupt government theme so I would also probably use those themes to centralize a universal theme and tie the story together. Just saying it could be done and done well.

Try expanding this part to join up a few worlds and see how weird/ridiculous it ends up?

[Chardrizard]

I had more fun reading Twilight.

[SafeOnBlock]

The same critical trolls spouting off the same negative garbage.

Tell me what didn't you like about it? Was it as boring as being covered in wood sin and having to run around a town every half an hour getting bits and pieces. Yeah that must be much better. Yeah clearly I must have no writing skills whatsoever.

You know what I think, anything I say you will disagree with because you already had that in your mind from the second you read the first post.

[Jokerz]

Think about it for a second... just combining the different are styles from each game is enough to clusterfuck the game. I don't mean it in a nasty or negative manner, it just wouldn't work. None of the stories are tied together except by few easter eggs here and there and a few staple elemental names, but otherwise every world and story is completely different. It really couldn't work from a MMO standpoint at least.

It does have potential as a single player rpg because you can build a story focused on one character that is experiencing the different worlds. In that manner I think your idea "could" work. And that is a big "could" however if they were to use a game like this to tie up a few loose ends from the various series, I could be interested in that.

[SafeOnBlock]

Fiosha's story is more fun than yours.



Try expanding this part to join up a few worlds and see how weird/ridiculous it ends up?

Why would this be weird and ridiculous? You know how weird some people thought Quina was? Or that time Yuna and Tidus forced them selfs to laugh in a horrible voice acted monotone voice or riding a damn whale to the moon? Yeah but without any thought you have labeled an idea weird and ridiculous before any sort of concept has come forth.

Again just another close minded individual. Do you have any sense of imagination?
Answer me this is there a chance it couldn't be weird and ridiculous?

[SafeOnBlock]

Think about it for a second... just combining the different are styles from each game is enough to clusterfuck the game. I don't mean it in a nasty or negative manner, it just wouldn't work. None of the stories are tied together except by few easter eggs here and there and a few staple elemental names, but otherwise every world and story is completely different. It really couldn't work from a MMO standpoint at least.

It does have potential as a single player rpg because you can build a story focused on one character that is experiencing the different worlds. In that manner I think your idea "could" work. And that is a big "could" however if they were to use a game like this to tie up a few loose ends from the various series, I could be interested in that.

I ask why do the stories have to be based completely off the original storylines? Why cant they be original? Why cant the art style be unified in one single style? So what FF9 couldnt possibly be rendered in a non cartoon way? Umm sure it can. Again people not thinking outside of this little tiny box. Its getting annoying.

I dont get you guys. You think all these "problems make the game fail" all I see is road blocks. Mentality is what makes the difference between leaders and followers. If you see a problem you ask yourself can this be avoided? Fixed? How can we approach this to make it work? I dont see anyone of you thinking like that. All I see is well blah blah so it cant possibly work. That is BS in the highest degree.

[Lux_Rayna]

I ask why do the stories have to be based completely off the original storylines? Why cant they be original? Why cant the art style be unified in one single style? So what FF9 couldnt possibly be rendered in a non cartoon way? Umm sure it can. Again people not thinking outside of this little tiny box. Its getting annoying.

I dont get you guys. You think all these "problems make the game fail" all I see is road blocks. Mentality is what makes the difference between leaders and followers. If you see a problem you ask yourself can this be avoided? Fixed? How can we approach this to make it work? I dont see anyone of you thinking like that. All I see is well blah blah so it cant possibly work. That is BS in the highest degree.

What about nerd rage dont you understand. If the goal is to service the FF fans, the last thing you want to do is fuck with the original storylines, characters, and art styles. That would just piss them off, and completely alienate the audience you are trying to sell the game to. This thread should be proof enough that *fans* care about certain things, otherwise they wont bother paying for what you give them. Your problem is that you *think* what the fans think is irrelevant. Have fun trying to sell a game like you're proposing to ppl who think its a bad idea. Its a bad idea precisely because fans don't like the idea, which makes this hypothetical game you are proposing a hypothetical *failure*. Not all ideas are good ideas, not all ideas are liked, not all ideas are successful. It should be clear to you that ppl just don't like it. Does it matter why they don't like it? No. At the end of the day when you are talking about an mmorpg, the only thing that matters is whether they like it or not. If they dont like it, they aint buying it..and sure as hell aint gonna subscribe to it.

Just move on to the next idea, christ. If we use this thread alone, so far your game is selling maybe 3 copies. And you want a company to throw a bunch of money at a fail project like that? When you garner a lot of positive community feedback, then we can talk about "what could have been". As this idea is not working, i suggest you work at a new one. So far, your game is a giant failure, and there's no way in hell SE would even *think* about it at this rate. Who the hell cares why ppl dont like it? You think SE runs around telling us to stfu, that we have no taste, or demand good reasons why we don't like something? No. We don't like it, we don't buy it, SE isn't stupid. They just say "okay" and give us what we want. Thats how the game world works. Reasons won't make your idea any more valid. If ppl dont like it its not valid. Period. Obviously the thread speaks for itself, so that is that. You are wasting mental energy over a failure of an idea (as the community sees it). No community, no game...obviously it didn't work out.