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    Innio Lynx
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    Fisher Lv 100

    Aetherflow Gauge is full from the start

    When you enter a dungeon, Sage Addersgall DPS/Healing Gauge is already full.
    Now they've done the same for WHM, adding Afflatus Misery and a fully filled Healing Gauge from the start.
    I wanted to consider doing the same for SCH, so that the Aetherflow Gauge is full from the start of the fight, so that I can use 6 stacks for Chain Stratagem and 3 for healing.
    What do you think about this? ^^
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    Jenova
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    Scholar Lv 100
    SCH gets 3 from pressing aetherflow immediately, it really doesn’t need 9 in the opener since half will fall outside chain anyway if you do ED them all
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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    Oscarlet Oirellain
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    Paladin Lv 100
    You can use 3 as combat begins, then another 3 using Dissipation. You will probably get by if you burn them using your other abilities, but might depend on the fight.

    In a dungeon you probably have used it already and have 3 stored, then can use Aetherflow right after, then Dissipation.
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    Nadda Daweel
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    Louisoix
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    Quote Originally Posted by Innio View Post
    When you enter a dungeon, Sage Addersgall DPS/Healing Gauge is already full.
    Now they've done the same for WHM, adding Afflatus Misery and a fully filled Healing Gauge from the start.
    I wanted to consider doing the same for SCH, so that the Aetherflow Gauge is full from the start of the fight, so that I can use 6 stacks for Chain Stratagem and 3 for healing.
    What do you think about this? ^^
    I think that's a bit much I didn't ask for the full lilies they just sort of gave em to me.
    Scholars and Summoners I think there pets should spawn with them automatically - I feel bad when they die and the first thing they need to do is summon their pet. That feels super unfair, like no other jobs in the game get gimped that hard.
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    Keiho Fukiku
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    Here we witness in real time people begging, pleading, insisting that they make classes even more similar to one another.
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    Sunie Dakwhil
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    Since Gauges start full instead of being built up those days I'm seriously wondering what's different from MP systems that also start full... Have we gone full circle but the system got dumbed down hardcore? For what?
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    Secretly had a crush on Mao

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    Mira Clearweaver
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    I was wondering when will people start asking for full AF when they gave WHM their fully charged Lilies… ah well.. I think it’s revolting to even think about starting with full AF. But at the same time I won’t be surprised if SE think it’s a great idea to give more power to the already strongest healer of the four (not by DPS) we have today. Not to mention to make all 4 even more homogenous.

    Big no from me personally. As of now SCH can comfily fit 6 EDs in under their Chain window so long they pre-mitigate sufficiently (spreadlo+expedience) or/and rely on their fae abilities effectively (start with Dissipation first instead of Aetherflow so fairy will come back up sooner, just in time to shove WD/FB). Giving them 3 extra in the beginning just means you can ignore the soft prerequisite to achieve 6 EDs with no effort at all.
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    Last edited by Rein_eon_Osborne; 12-31-2025 at 11:30 PM.

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    Lorna Louvia
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    Summoner Lv 100
    I'm not opposed to it, but I agree that the fact that we just hit a button to get a full stack verses the minute plus WHM/SGE have to wait to get theirs makes it a bit unnecessary.
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    Dear Boy
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    Fisher Lv 100
    Scholars don't need it.
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    Elie Uzephi
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Nadda View Post
    I think that's a bit much I didn't ask for the full lilies they just sort of gave em to me.
    Scholars and Summoners I think there pets should spawn with them automatically - I feel bad when they die and the first thing they need to do is summon their pet. That feels super unfair, like no other jobs in the game get gimped that hard.
    Instead of having full AF, I just want to use it out of combat, again. Revert back to being able to use it out of combat, then we don't need this change.

    On the pet thing, that's part of the class. Similar to others losing their resources (eg: B/W mana for RDM). If we must summon a pet after death, at least make summoning not remove your res invuln.
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