7.4 Extreme should have lines on the floor for Runaway Train

[HyonaCookie]

The Runaway Train part of the new extreme should have lines on the floor so it's easier to spread without overlapping AOEs. While yes it would make the fight easier, people are already making the fight easier by somehow placing markers for this section of the fight due to a popular strategy where half the party stands still. And it's almost impossible to find a party where these markers aren't placed, so making it easier isn't going to matter anyways.

[Jeeqbit]

Markers have long been used to make things easier. Isn't needed though. Here is how you do it without markers:

Healers look at which way is North on the minimap. You can disable the minimap from rotating by clicking the lock button on it. One healer north side, other south side. This makes it easy for melee dps to go east/west. All simply need to be max melee so they don't overlap. If the scholar book won't auto attack, it's a bit beyond max melee.

Ranged don't need lines since they can align with the very edge of the arena. They can't fall off. They are also aligning with the train, which is their relative North. I'll admit it's probably challenging for them - I don't aim the tankbuster exactly the same every time, after all, but the likelihood of southern ranged DPS getting clipped is low. The north ranged spot looks tight but there is the standard delay between train stopping and the cleaves going off, so I've hardly ever seen the north dps actually get cleaved by TB.

[DarkOmegaGod]

This is just how high end content in FFXIV is done now. I believe when Square Enix C&D'd that mod sharing program that one of the very first reasons given was that it undermined the achievement of raiders. Seeing as how they have not C&D'd the numerous and very well known third party cheat programs in circulation we can conclude that they are not considered by SE to undermine the achievements of raiders. Therefore the usage of third party cheats is actually the de facto intended way to approach high end content. So don't worry about it you have Yoshi P's personal thumbs up of approval to use those cheated markers.

[Astronis]

Ranged don't need lines since they can align with the very edge of the arena. They can't fall off. They are also aligning with the train, which is their relative North. I'll admit it's probably challenging for them - I don't aim the tankbuster exactly the same every time, after all, but the likelihood of southern ranged DPS getting clipped is low.

Yeah, if south ranged is getting clipped, they've badly misread the ghost train. There's lots of room back there and misaiming the TB is more likely to murder a healer than south ranged.

Not that I've ever murdered a healer greeding too hard >_>

Now...what that phase might need is an alternate visual cue. The sound is loud enough, but ye gad, I can't imagine what kind of pain in the butt it would be for a player who needs the visual cue.

[HyonaCookie]

I don't care if cheating is normalized in the community, I don't think it's fair to people who are not okay with the markers being there. There should be an alternative for people who don't want to use those markers.

Now...what that phase might need is an alternate visual cue. The sound is loud enough, but ye gad, I can't imagine what kind of pain in the butt it would be for a player who needs the visual cue.

I do agree as someone who is hard of hearing. Sometimes I second guess as to whether there were 2 or 3 toots even with my SFX volume being higher than BGM.

[Jeeqbit]

I don't care if cheating is normalized in the community, I don't think it's fair to people who are not okay with the markers being there. There should be an alternative for people who don't want to use those markers.

I've got around 66 totems purely come car 5/6 or enrage prog parties. Sometimes they don't have any markers at all and they still do the mechanic. This happened in the clears today and they were fine.

[0blivion]

the fight is already piss easy, why tf do you need it to be easier still?

also markers are entirely optional because the appropriate distance from the add is easy to work out during static intermission. I've only done it once with markers in my 50 runs for 100 totems.

e/: also what jeeqbit said basically lol

e2/: did you know there is an accessibility feature that displays sound in the game as pulsing waves? because there is.

[theunhappypotato]

the fight is already piss easy, why tf do you need it to be easier still?

also markers are entirely optional because the appropriate distance from the add is easy to work out during static intermission. I've only done it once with markers in my 50 runs for 100 totems.

e/: also what jeeqbit said basically lol

e2/: did you know there is an accessibility feature that displays sound in the game as pulsing waves? because there is.

game to hard

[Astronis]

I've got around 66 totems purely come car 5/6 or enrage prog parties. Sometimes they don't have any markers at all and they still do the mechanic. This happened in the clears today and they were fine.

Yeah, this fight doesn't need markers. Putting a sign on the healers' heads can be useful, but not strictly necessary.

[Alicie]

This is just how high end content in FFXIV is done now. I believe when Square Enix C&D'd that mod sharing program that one of the very first reasons given was that it undermined the achievement of raiders. Seeing as how they have not C&D'd the numerous and very well known third party cheat programs in circulation we can conclude that they are not considered by SE to undermine the achievements of raiders. Therefore the usage of third party cheats is actually the de facto intended way to approach high end content. So don't worry about it you have Yoshi P's personal thumbs up of approval to use those cheated markers.

My thread asking to remove logging websites was removed, that's all you need to know about FFXIV