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  1. #21
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    Aidorouge's Avatar
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    Buzam Aidorouge
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    Excalibur
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    Ninja Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    I've said before, I understand it being a limit they put on current content to keep you running Expert roulette for longer, but there's no good reason to retain the increased difficulty of getting gear from previous expansions' patch dungeons that are no longer at the level cap. They suffer the double frustration of no pity drops on top of already giving out less gear per run than a levelling dungeon -- each non-boss coffer only has a chance of containing an item, and (at least in some dungeons) even the first boss only has a 50% chance between shoes or the nothingness that used to be a belt, so you can finish some runs with only two pieces of gear acquired.
    Shucks, sometimes you don't get any gear AT ALL because nothing drops for your job and you lose every greed roll on the other pieces.

    Had more than a few Ivalice runs (in a row no less) where my only prize was a repair bill.
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  2. #22
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    HereticJay's Avatar
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    Jaycus Wintersguard
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    Jenova
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    i got 3 copies of the minion running with trust before i gotten the piece i wanted it is absolutely absurd
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  3. #23
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    Jeanne D'altaer
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    Brynhildr
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    To be fair running with trusts in newer content (late EW patches and DT) is already farming at a disadvantage, because not only is the run slower, you also get fewer loot drops with NPCs.
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  4. #24
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    mixu's Avatar
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    Sindri Stjarna
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    Seraph
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    White Mage Lv 80
    If only I could trade all the scouting tops that drop for me for someone’s aiming T - T
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  5. #25
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    Destati's Avatar
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    Aoki Kha
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    Balmung
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    Reaper Lv 100
    They really need to implement the guaranteed loot drops for the level cap dungeons of previous expansions at the very least.
    It would be cool if we could get a pity system for old alliance raid gear too, like maybe using obsolete raid tokens.
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  6. #26
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    Canadane's Avatar
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    King Canadane
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    Hyperion
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Amh_Wilzuun View Post
    The only reason it's not like this is because they think it will add "longevity" the content. My brother in Hydaelyn NO ONE is logging into this game to run story dungeons. I want this top so I can look cool running actual pieces of content
    So until then you're logging in to run story dungeons.
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  7. #27
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    Arzalis's Avatar
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    Kemi Epoc
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    Balmung
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    Machinist Lv 82
    Them not doing this for old "end game" dungeons is pretty weird. I can almost guarantee it's just a flag somewhere in the system and they just never modify it when a new expansion comes out.
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  8. #28
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    Veya Akemi
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    Marilith
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    Viper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Jaltaer View Post
    To be fair running with trusts in newer content (late EW patches and DT) is already farming at a disadvantage, because not only is the run slower, you also get fewer loot drops with NPCs.
    I feel both of those need an asterisk, yes Trusts are slower, but also if you play DPS or at odd times, you don't have to wait on ques, for example Mistwake, I can finish it in about 22 minutes and 30 seconds with Trusts pretty reliably on VPR, give or take 30 seconds, which isn't meaningfully slower than a normal que, and might be faster depending on the quality of the players you get, yes you get fewer drops, but also you get everything that drops, even playing the correct role isn't a guarantee you will get it if it isn't Healer or Tank, since a random same role DPS might take the item instead(though vocalizing yourself and asking for it is always an option), so I feel there is a strong argument for farming with Trusts over queing over and over, if that's at all an option.
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  9. #29
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    Nadda Daweel
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    Louisoix
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Shouldn't you get more chances for the gear you want by doing it in duty support or quickly running it with friends?
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  10. #30
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    CaptainLagbeard's Avatar
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    Rhaya Jakkya
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    Odin
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    White Mage Lv 100
    I don't know for current dungeons, as they can be somewhat relevant gear... But for past ones they could definitely do something. Dungeon gear is mostly just glam gear after a few patches anyways.

    They could always take the mogtome system, make one set of irregular tomestones that's permanently available which you get from running old content, they then gets used to buy past expansions dungeon gear.
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