Thancred's new face

[HeyMcFly]

Pre Dawntrail, Thancred was my miqote's husband.

Post Dawntrail, Thancred was replaced by a body snatcher.

[Rueby]

Pre Dawntrail, Thancred was my miqote's husband.

Post Dawntrail, Thancred was replaced by a body snatcher.

Thancred Waters : Mandela Catalogue Edition.

[Glyphs]

Throwing in my support here. I have some hopes we'll see some changes eventually, now we have a grounding on how long these matters take to get seen to, and how the dev pipeline is structured. While I still have my own deep grievances with the player model upgrades, the recent NPCs to have had their graphics updated (Gaius, Aymeric, etc.) have all looked faithful and fantastic. Surely some time can be taken to upgrade Thancred in a faithful manner, too.

It's worth keeping this issue raised, same as with player models. It's fine if it doesn't impact you, and all the better for it, but these things do matter for many players.

[Tatiana]

He literally looks fine, I understand people wishing he could somehow be totally 100% identical, but I also feel like this is the type of thing where players put a lot of unnecessary pressure on the employees over at SE which then most likely impacts their work in more important areas of the game. I cannot imagine they just threw these faces together and didn't work hard to get it as close as possible but it's honestly a bit unreasonable to expect perfection and for the faces to be completely identical to before given how extensive some of these graphics upgrades have been on a technical level.

Honestly I don't know how some people would be able to handle playing games that have sequels where the characters don't look 100% identical to the version of themselves from 15 years ago, because none of them ever do and you almost never see anyone complain about it yet here we are, expecting that in FFXIV and yes I understand that this is not a sequel, but from a technical standpoint it may as have been.

[IndraSyngiwyb]

He literally looks fine, I understand people wishing he could somehow be totally 100% identical, but I also feel like this is the type of thing where players put a lot of unnecessary pressure on the employees over at SE which then most likely impacts their work in more important areas of the game. I cannot imagine they just threw these faces together and didn't work hard to get it as close as possible but it's honestly a bit unreasonable to expect perfection and for the faces to be completely identical to before given how extensive some of these graphics upgrades have been on a technical level.

Honestly I don't know how some people would be able to handle playing games that have sequels where the characters don't look 100% identical to the version of themselves from 15 years ago, because none of them ever do and you almost never see anyone complain about it yet here we are, expecting that in FFXIV and yes I understand that this is not a sequel, but from a technical standpoint it may as have been.

You'd have a point if not for the fact that several other characters with unique faces look pretty much identical save for the updated graphics. See Aymeric, for example. He still looks like Aymeric, just updated with better graphics. They didn't change his entire face.

[HeyMcFly]

He literally looks fine, I understand people wishing he could somehow be totally 100% identical, but I also feel like this is the type of thing where players put a lot of unnecessary pressure on the employees over at SE which then most likely impacts their work in more important areas of the game. I cannot imagine they just threw these faces together and didn't work hard to get it as close as possible but it's honestly a bit unreasonable to expect perfection and for the faces to be completely identical to before given how extensive some of these graphics upgrades have been on a technical level.

Honestly I don't know how some people would be able to handle playing games that have sequels where the characters don't look 100% identical to the version of themselves from 15 years ago, because none of them ever do and you almost never see anyone complain about it yet here we are, expecting that in FFXIV and yes I understand that this is not a sequel, but from a technical standpoint it may as have been.

I would agree with you, had they not erased Thancred's face to something different- where the other characters got a glow-up and didn't have a face swap

[Appleboops]

I year of whining and some 30 pages+ all for a dude who's face is really just some 1s and 0s, but yes, SE please put all your focus onto "fixing" this guy's face, pull all monetary assets and budgeting away from content development, gameplay improvements, graphics performance improvements, stability, and just fix his face already. Better yet, give him an even better face, in fact let's let the community submit artistic renditions (PG of course) of what we want this guy to look like, and then SE just make him look like whatever one gets the most votes. Apparently this is not an MMO, it's an AI dating app so let's give 'em what they're yearning for, why not O.o

[Turethir]

I cannot imagine they just threw these faces together and didn't work hard to get it as close as possible but it's honestly a bit unreasonable to expect perfection and for the faces to be completely identical to before given how extensive some of these graphics upgrades have been on a technical level.

I understand the point in your post, but unfortunately this is exactly what has happened here.

Thancred had a unique facial sculpt before, but it was simply replaced with Midlander Face 1 - there was no time spent in trying to keep his unique facial features intact. He's never been a default Midlander, but now his face is 100% identical to a player face. It was pretty much the quickest way this could have been done.

As others have said, other NPCs such as the twins, Aymeric, Lyse, Yotsuyu, Ryne, and more have received faithful updates which keep their unique faces intact. Even if there might be slight changes (and there are), they are still very obviously the same characters. For those of us who care deeply about Thancred, he simply does not look the same anymore. If you check the first post and click the link, you can see some examples of these comparisons, and more information on the update as a whole and why it does not meet the expectations laid out at FanFest.

For a developer who works with these tools every day, I imagine this should not take long to fix and should not take lots of resource away from other issues. Thancred appears in many expansions and is a major character, and he is being treated with less care than characters who only appear in one expansion or have very minor roles.

[Aviatorhead]

I year of whining and some 30 pages+ all for a dude who's face is really just some 1s and 0s, but yes, SE please put all your focus onto "fixing" this guy's face, pull all monetary assets and budgeting away from content development, gameplay improvements, graphics performance improvements, stability, and just fix his face already. Better yet, give him an even better face, in fact let's let the community submit artistic renditions (PG of course) of what we want this guy to look like, and then SE just make him look like whatever one gets the most votes. Apparently this is not an MMO, it's an AI dating app so let's give 'em what they're yearning for, why not O.o

Are you just trolling? Why are you mad about this? Its a main character that's pretty popular, ofc people are going to want him to look like he used to, and this not going to take The Entire Budget and every last man at square to fix.

[HeyMcFly]

I year of whining and some 30 pages+ all for a dude who's face is really just some 1s and 0s, but yes, SE please put all your focus onto "fixing" this guy's face, pull all monetary assets and budgeting away from content development, gameplay improvements, graphics performance improvements, stability, and just fix his face already. Better yet, give him an even better face, in fact let's let the community submit artistic renditions (PG of course) of what we want this guy to look like, and then SE just make him look like whatever one gets the most votes. Apparently this is not an MMO, it's an AI dating app so let's give 'em what they're yearning for, why not O.o

Yes, all of their assets and budget towards content development and gameplay improvements, stability is all managed by ONE man, who could not handle a ninth job of fixing Thancred's face. This one man is also the janitor at SE HQ, because only one person works there!