The Hypocrisy of 'Sinister' (M9): Lyrics vs. Player Conduct Standards

[Connor]

Ok gonna be real here for a moment

It feels like the ‘think of the children’ shtick people are throwing about is just a scapegoat, and the real issue is ‘how dare SE make lyrics with implied sexual innuendo directed at literally nobody but I’m not allowed to blatantly ERP in public /say chat.

I mean I’ve seen and heard people type all sorts of ‘humorous innuendo’ since 2.0 on parties, shout, etc, funnily enough I don’t remember any of them being permabanned. Like even the goddamn NPCs are in on the joke lol. It’s absolutely untrue that you ‘can’t get away innuendo’, you just can’t get away with being a creep

[Astronis]

Ok gonna be real here for a moment

It feels like the ‘think of the children’ shtick people are throwing about is just a scapegoat, and the real issue is ‘how dare SE make lyrics with implied sexual innuendo directed at literally nobody but I’m not allowed to blatantly ERP in public /say chat.

I mean I’ve seen and heard people type all sorts of ‘humorous innuendo’ since 2.0 on parties, shout, etc, funnily enough I don’t remember any of them being permabanned. Like even the goddamn NPCs are in on the joke lol. It’s absolutely untrue that you ‘can’t get away innuendo’, you just can’t get away with being a creep

Yeaahhh it's not coming across as genuine here, is it. Some of the posts here are sounding a bit more like, 'Well, the game has suggestive themes, why can't I therefore turn Limsa's aetheryte into an open-air Fetlife chat?'

[ZephyrMenodora]

Thanks for suggestion I did file a complaint with the ESRB

Good luck with that *pats on head*

[CCheshire]

The problem with where we are socially on this game is that once again the loudest voice is the most heard, normal people do not like the way the FF14 community operates. I believe it's become this way because the impactful moderation is on the JP side of things, they simply cannot fathom how the players on NA feel, the culture is too different. Being all goody' two shoes 24/7 might be fine for their culture, but this game is supposed to be about violent fights, bloody brawls, it has prostitution in it from both NPCs and real players, it has gambling, alcohol, death, all of these badass concepts in it, really beautiful and cool monsters, but the truth of the matter is, do you know how EASY it is to emotionally upset somebody? Especially now in 2025? It would be more impressive if you managed to not do so, which lately seems to be not ever typing anything at all.
This woke ideology is killing this game. These people need to looked down on as whiners, dully noted, and then reserve actual moderation for the real problem makers. Gonna put a black mark on my account because I said "you just posted cringe" I have Wuk Lamat running around doing whatever it is she does, kill the game, I guess. Meanwhile I'm not allowed to say anything more offensive than the word 'cringe' which narrows it down to just "GG" and "have a good day" Not to mention, if anybody else says anything else equal to or greater than "cringe" I, as a good samaritan, am obligated to file a report on them now, because that's clearly against the rules, which does take a lot of time. So all in all it's a real mess and I would wish to see better for this game, I think the game should reflect it's content more fairly to what players are held to.

Here it is finally the real reason OP is only angry at SE because they think it's "woke" — and everything else is to hide that the GM put them in jail for being rude and disrespectful to other players and they refuse to take responsibility for their actions in a MMO owned by a company that can ban you for breaking them.

It only took 8 pages of doing a lot of whataboutism for them to realize yes you can be banned for acting poorly in-game, and there's nothing you can do to stop them from closing your account if you get too many strikes.

[Nestama]

Game is M15+ in Australia and PEGI 16 in UK, so the song is perfectly fine imo. It's also just a song in a single battle zone, which you can easily mute if you don't feel like listening to it.

Also woke ideology? Wanna explain what the heck that is, OP?

[Aidorouge]

Here it is finally the real reason OP is only angry at SE because they think it's "woke" — and everything else is to hide that the GM put them in jail for being rude and disrespectful to other players and they refuse to take responsibility for their actions in a MMO owned by a company that can ban you for breaking them.

It only took 8 pages of doing a lot of whataboutism for them to realize yes you can be banned for acting poorly in-game, and there's nothing you can do to stop them from closing your account if you get too many strikes.

Admittedly, the risk of getting banned over the word "cringe" does highlight why so few people bother to talk in this game (or only do so with people using outside methods like Discord), because it's not worth speaking up and immediately putting one self in the crosshairs. There's not even a nice and polite way to tell someone they're doing something wrong/how to improve at something because by default, telling them at all is considered rude and actionable.

[lievaordiea]

There's not even a nice and polite way to tell someone they're doing something wrong/how to improve at something because by default, telling them at all is considered rude and actionable.

i think the issue is
why tell them? unless they ask you.

you could ask them if they want pointers. but never give unasked for 'advice'

[Nestama]

There's not even a nice and polite way to tell someone they're doing something wrong/how to improve at something because by default, telling them at all is considered rude and actionable.

Is it? I've yet to be thrown into GM Gaol for giving out advice on how to improve/have fun playing a Job. If people are being thrown into GM Gaol for giving out advice, then it's how they're wording it and/or how insistent they are even after being told to stop/not interested.

[Avenheit]

WoN't SoMeBoDy PlEaSe ThInK oF tHe ChIlDrEn!??!!

[KihyiFelhede]

You can't insult other players and do sex roleplay in a public space

Woke Lamat, The Communist Manifesto