REGION-WIDE Duty Finder & Party Finder: Urgently needed in NA & EU

[Jeeqbit]

Do you play in EU often? I've been only in EU since I began playing in 2020 and my experience was never that

I did a lot of High-End stuff there in Shadowbringers and that was my experience all of the time. Half the time a party would have a lot of non-English conversation, or there would be fundamental struggles with working with people due to it, and it was virtually always with people that only spoke French. Also have joined random MINE content there sometimes.

Like I said it's not a major issue nor really that hard to deal with, but when you're used to not having to run into it at all, nor think about it at all, it makes you more likely to just switch back to NA.

My intent was to agree with your point that, from an NA player's perspective, dealing with multiple languages can be chaotic because they're not used to it.

However, in the context of a cross-region PF or DF, which this thread doesn't seem to actually be suggesting, it would ultimately be fine on the basis that the Japanese and EU regions figured out working across language barriers, so NA players will too if they enable a setting to cross regions.

[Shistar]

I did a lot of High-End stuff there in Shadowbringers and that was my experience all of the time. Half the time a party would have a lot of non-English conversation, or there would be fundamental struggles with working with people due to it, and it was virtually always with people that only spoke French. Also have joined random MINE content there sometimes.

Like I said it's not a major issue nor really that hard to deal with, but when you're used to not having to run into it at all, nor think about it at all, it makes you more likely to just switch back to NA.

I see, things seem to have changed a lot lately! I'm happy to say there's rarely any issues nowadays.
Cross-region would be crazy considering the servers are so far away and someone will get the short end of the stick with the ping, but it could be fun for memes.

[Shistar]

Back to the top with this. We'd all benefit from it, so it is worth keeping visible.

[virianna]

After the change, going to try out EU you were met with the realization that, as an English speaker, many don't speak that or don't speak it well on EU servers, and it's simpler to just play in the NA region where virtually everyone speaks English

First of all that's pretty xenophobic and reminds me of all these memes of i learned english because you refuse to learn anything else. Majority of EU players speaks english just fine, and who doesn't usually stay within their group that uses their language. Admittedly there will be a non-english shout here and there in hubs but again, people who want isolation in their language gotta find these groups somehow. I don't see a problem.

It's not that hard to navigate it due to auto-translate but it's still just more effort or extra steps, and sometimes you do have to sit through entire conversations in another language in party chat, even in High-End duties.

I play since around 2018 and I have yet to see 'sitting through entire conversations in another language in high end duties', but dunno i also don't see a reason why i shouldn't switch to my native or 3rd language i am fluent in to help someone out when they struggle to understand a mechanic in english so WE CAN ACTUALLY CLEAR. Again. xenophobia much.

And it seems less common to get a PF into discord voice in EU because of the varied languages.

It's not language barrier. It's privacy. I can assure you that many people would join an in-game chat if there was one, but sharing your discord to 7 strangers who you never met before in game and who you may never talk to again is often out of the question for many.

[Shistar]

Hard agree. And if you don't speak the language, that's what translators are for!

I play since around 2018 and I have yet to see 'sitting through entire conversations in another language in high end duties', but dunno i also don't see a reason why i shouldn't switch to my native or 3rd language i am fluent in to help someone out when they struggle to understand a mechanic in english so WE CAN ACTUALLY CLEAR. Again. xenophobia much.

I gotta say, although it happened literally one time and never again, I did mention having the french player that knew zero English in my UWU prog group. Thankfully everyone was super patient and we got by with auto translate and some quick chat sentences, so if we can prog an Ultimate like that I think the language barrier will never be an issue (it never was, honestly, and we got nearly to the end of Ifrit like that if I remember right? So it was a very productive prog considering we had someone who got the mechs explained exclusively through poorly translated sentences on my part)

Honestly, having such a varied community has awakened my interest to pick up more languages. It's great to see some people having 3+ languages listed in their adventurer plates!

[Hanzz96]

Hard agree. And if you don't speak the language, that's what translators are for!



I gotta say, although it happened literally one time and never again, I did mention having the french player that knew zero English in my UWU prog group. Thankfully everyone was super patient and we got by with auto translate and some quick chat sentences, so if we can prog an Ultimate like that I think the language barrier will never be an issue (it never was, honestly, and we got nearly to the end of Ifrit like that if I remember right? So it was a very productive prog considering we had someone who got the mechs explained exclusively through poorly translated sentences on my part)

Honestly, having such a varied community has awakened my interest to pick up more languages. It's great to see some people having 3+ languages listed in their adventurer plates!

Sadly JP players do not see it this way. "Do you speak Japanese" is a common phrase in Elemental PF and if you do not you're kicked. When PFing in Mana english speaking Elemental players are scared to type a single word because if they are found out as not being Japanese fluent they will be kicked from the PF.

[Reimmi]

Sadly JP players do not see it this way. "Do you speak Japanese" is a common phrase in Elemental PF and if you do not you're kicked. When PFing in Mana english speaking Elemental players are scared to type a single word because if they are found out as not being Japanese fluent they will be kicked from the PF.

It's nice to hear "JP only" still exists <_<

[arnisong]

Chaos has been dead for eons. Both in PF and visually speaking. It's time for an EU merger into a super server.

For real though, any idea if creating region wide PF is even possible? From a technical perspective.

[Shistar]

Sadly JP players do not see it this way. "Do you speak Japanese" is a common phrase in Elemental PF and if you do not you're kicked. When PFing in Mana english speaking Elemental players are scared to type a single word because if they are found out as not being Japanese fluent they will be kicked from the PF.

Again, the feature I'm suggesting doesn't impede them from continuing to play however they want! But we'd greatly benefit from having it.

For real though, any idea if creating region wide PF is even possible? From a technical perspective.

Users before were theorizing about a specific server that only manages duties, so you'd be transported there for your roulette/PF no matter where you come from, then taken back home once you're done. Obviously, still some details to iron out like how we'd be able to talk to each other while waiting in PF if players are from different DCs but not inside the duty together, but I do not think it is impossible if the devs were given clearance to work on it.

[miraidensetsu]

Why not just fuse together all servers on some datacenter? Those services can be scalated, right? RIGHT?