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  1. #111
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    I really enjoyed Dawntrail. Sometimes it gets so tiring being the main focus. Emet said travel, and so we did. Of course this new land would have it's own story not revolving around us. At first Wuk Lamat seemed very childish, but that was the point, to show how events had her grow up rather quickly. I really enjoyed the interactions between her and Koana and how they grew closer.
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    Malefactorix Bug
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpookyKobold View Post
    Mentors across all DCs, sprouts, random players, they all talk about the expansion like normal because it is normal. These complaints only come from y'all because you make it up in your heads and then come to the forums to make other disengeous people pretend like your complaints are valid. Vocal minority and all that.
    Citation Needed? The last time someone asked about DT in NN, it was immediately responded with "lmao" and "Play it and form your own opinion". People, despite their grievances, aren't going to go out of their way to be toxic about it because that's not what this game is about. It's part of the game now and we have to deal with it.
    I'm not going to pretend to be a novelist nor am I'm going out of my way to convince people who believe otherwise, but Wuk Lamat is a textbook example of how to not write a leading character. No one is exaggerating about how "Wuk Lamat is always on screen" because when just about every single scene throughout the main story focuses so heavily on her and her contribution to the story, you'd think the camera was glued to her collar bone along with the lead writer. There are numerous breakdowns and reviews highlighting all these problems, some literally hours long.
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    Last edited by DBug; 12-16-2025 at 07:10 PM.

  3. #113
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnnaUK View Post
    I really enjoyed Dawntrail. Sometimes it gets so tiring being the main focus. Emet said travel, and so we did. Of course this new land would have it's own story not revolving around us. At first Wuk Lamat seemed very childish, but that was the point, to show how events had her grow up rather quickly. I really enjoyed the interactions between her and Koana and how they grew closer.
    Refreshing to read a reply like this.

    I enjoyed it too. Yeah, Wuk Lamat was over-used (and then some) and it certainly had some pacing issues - but I've definitely played worse!

    However, some players really do act as if Wuk Lamat pee'd in their breakfast, kicked their dog and stole their girlfriend!
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  4. #114
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpookyKobold View Post
    EVERYONE is hating because of the VA. They'll lie to your face that that isn't the case, and then spout off some BS about the story (that they likely haven't even read) that contradicts itself and the actual text of the story (again because they haven't read it, but listened to some transphobe on youtube recount the story badly, one has already been posted in this thread too). They really sit there and say things like "Wuk Lamat just had a party instead of fixing the tribes wilting crops!" like y'all didn't pay ANY attention to the story did you, cause that ain't anywhere close to what happened.
    "Everyone" is a stretch. i play with JP va's so i literally don't care
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  5. #115
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    My fault is with the writers and how they injected her like crack into every other sentence in the expansion, somehow.
    Didn't really hate the VA because I have no idea who they are, there was the meme bit with Sphene that got changed and that's all I recall.
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  6. #116
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  7. #117
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    I like the potential of mentoring a stuck-up royalty who doesn't understand the working of places outside their home palace, which is what I believe was the original intention by the writer. I however don't like how they handled it. I think what they did instead was doing a disservice to the character & also undermining the integrity of the world because now everything has to operate under the skewed limitation of "Wuk Lamat has to get the glory and be liked by 90% characters in the story!" without a coherent build up. One example in mind currently while I wrote this:
    Wuk Lamat claimed to live in Tuliyollal her whole life (we are told so), but writer proceeds to demonstrate how she
    1. Never knew about basic greeting of the Hanus while also citing that she had been to Kozama'uka before;
    2. That Pelupelu charges for trading an information/anything (while also being a friend with Ropli???), AND;
    3. She never knew anything about the potsworn while a DoH (I forgot that male wildwood elezen's name, starts with F I think) who only came to Tuliyollal on a boat together with us already know what that is.

    Her own people live in the city too, how could she not known any of this? As a royalty herself, even. This incoherence made me squint ಠ_ಠ

    The integrity of surrounding characters also diminishes in order to elevate her 'success'. For example, why Alphinaud never said anything when she demonstrates the danger of naivety & having only pure idealism in order to get what she wants? He's got a lot to say to her on that front as he had been through with the Crystal Braves in the past, but alas that was never explored in favor of further and repetition of "I have to protect Papa's peace!!!"-affirmations. This sort of 'growth' is very contrived and sounds very unearned.


    Oh yeah, I also play on JP VA
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  8. #118
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    Maby we should have joined with Emet so dawntrail never would have happened.
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  9. #119
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    Asuka Kirai
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpookyKobold View Post
    Holy over exaggeration. It's a shame y'all are so far into your own made up fantasy stories that you refuse to have a proper conversation based in reality. To pretend like Wuk is on screen more than other characters in the game is to outright lie and anyone that has actually played the game and payed attention to the story knows that.
    Dunno, people did analyse the dialogue distribution for Dawntrail and she account for around 24% of the dialogue for that expansion, having near enough triple of Erenville, who was second.

    Comparatively speaking Endwalker had Y'shtola, who had around 8% of dialogue, ShB, G'raha Tia at around 10%, Stormblood with Lyse at around 10%.. The closest is HW Alphinaud with around 20% of the dialogue
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  10. #120
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    X'lota Qi
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    I don't care if she continues to be present. I just think it's time to allow the player to decide who they hang with. The Dawn trail plot would have been great opportunity to have actual choices on who we side with, but that ship has sailed.
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    "A good RPG needs a healthy dose of imbalance."
    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCuC365vjzBFmvbu6M7dB80A

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