Since Clair Obscur Expedition 33 Won the Game Awards add a turn based mode to FFXIV!

[RedLolly]

I think the more likely outcome of this is SE reconsidering making the next mainline FF have turnbased combat.

I would absolutely buy an FFXIV spin-off that's turnbased since I love the universe here (my first thought is maybe Ardbert and Co's adventures being a fully fleshed out game) but I wouldn't be very happy with it being in FFXIV unless it was DEEP. I mean, eschew the relic zones like OC or Bozja and the next limited job and pour that dev effort into the sub mode and go all in on remaking fights to be turn based.

But I have ZERO clue how it could work in multiplayer unless it just lets players all do their own thing like we see in stuff like Pokemon's raids.

[YumieYumiki]

Instead of bolting on some turn based mode to FFXIV, maybe they should go ahead and make an entire turn based final fantasy game

[freshavocado]

Turn based combat wouldnt really fit in ffxiv.. unless u meant triple triad. Maybe a turn based ff game? Turn based isnt for everything/ everyone tho

[SkankyRoe]

I think the more likely outcome of this is SE reconsidering making the next mainline FF have turnbased combat

And then the players will call it the worst game ever made and Squeenix will pivot back to action or some other combat gameplay type. Because that's the thing, a game can have turn-based combat gameplay and still be a bad game. E33 is widely loved and praised because it's a good game, not because it has turn-based combat gameplay.

[Selsix]

I'd be okay with it as side content, like a specific new game mode or a gold saucer game and it's restricted just to that. I really don't think it should be involved with the MSQ or any of the "main" content though.

Side note, a fully turn-based MMO sounds interesting if done properly, I'd try it.

[Wasselin]

I'd be okay with it as side content, like a specific new game mode or a gold saucer game and it's restricted just to that. I really don't think it should be involved with the MSQ or any of the "main" content though.

Side note, a fully turn-based MMO sounds interesting if done properly, I'd try it.

Doesn't it!? I think it could be a lot of fun and so many talk about wanting more strategy in encounters, but turn based could really add a whole new dimension to that.

I agree that in FFXIV it shouldn't be in the MSQ or main content. It would have to be a side mode.

[bic12]

SE will never be able to create a game even half as good as E33.

People think E33 is just a turn-based game. It's not. It borrows heavily from Diablo and Sekiro as well. Actually pay attention to what they were doing. The turn-based was just the most obvious element.

The way you build classes resembles roguelikes and Diablo/PoE far more than JRPGs. Half of the combat is also basically Sekiro. Dungeon design is closer to reboot GoW than any JRPG.

[bic12]

Also it's hilarious how the FF fanboys mald over the far superior game, E33. This very forum's mods deleted all my threads on E33 back when it came out. Rofl

[RedLolly]

And then the players will call it the worst game ever made and Squeenix will pivot back to action or some other combat gameplay type. Because that's the thing, a game can have turn-based combat gameplay and still be a bad game. E33 is widely loved and praised because it's a good game, not because it has turn-based combat gameplay.

No.

SE moved on from turn-based because technology allowed for more active styles of combat. Gameplay like we saw in Kingdom Hearts, FFXV, and even FFXIV, were a logical next step from THE ATB systems on the PS1 FF titles.

FFXVI being so action oriented was a common criticism since the RPG part of the gane is barely there anymore, and now E33 proves that a narrative game with deep turn-based combat can still do enormously well. E33's praises include it's unique combat system.

Besides, SE still makes such games with Octopath Traveler and Bravely Default, but neither series are designed to the scale of Final Fantasy, and after XVI and E33, players are asking for a new FF with turn-based focussed combat.

[SkankyRoe]

No.

SE moved on from turn-based because technology allowed for more active styles of combat. Gameplay like we saw in Kingdom Hearts, FFXV, and even FFXIV, were a logical next step from THE ATB systems on the PS1 FF titles.

FFXVI being so action oriented was a common criticism since the RPG part of the gane is barely there anymore, and now E33 proves that a narrative game with deep turn-based combat can still do enormously well. E33's praises include it's unique combat system.

Besides, SE still makes such games with Octopath Traveler and Bravely Default, but neither series are designed to the scale of Final Fantasy, and after XVI and E33, players are asking for a new FF with turn-based focussed combat.

You're missing the point; being turn-based doesn't magically ensure that a game will be good, there are a ton of really terrible games with turn-based combat. Squeenix has a history of deliberately misinterpreting things in the most half-assed way possible, and making the next mainline FF game turn-based solely because E33 did well, is a recipe for failure. If they make a mediocre or bad game expecting to coast off of turn-based combat, it will flop.