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  1. #71
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    Would you be saying that if the VA wasn't transgender?

    I don't think so.

    So many things are going to be blamed on her if this goes as I expect.
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  2. #72
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    Quote Originally Posted by TwiceDamned View Post
    Would you be saying that if the VA wasn't transgender?
    Yes, I would. I didn't even know any of the transgender stuff until I finished the story and had already formed my negative opinion of Wuk Lamat. She's an absolutely trash character, the gender identity of the VA has nothing to do with it.
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  3. #73
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpookyKobold View Post
    EVERYONE is hating because of the VA. They'll lie to your face that that isn't the case, and then spout off some BS about the story (that they likely haven't even read) that contradicts itself and the actual text of the story (again because they haven't read it, but listened to some transphobe on youtube recount the story badly, one has already been posted in this thread too). They really sit there and say things like "Wuk Lamat just had a party instead of fixing the tribes wilting crops!" like y'all didn't pay ANY attention to the story did you, cause that ain't anywhere close to what happened.
    Who cares if the VA is transgender? Honestly that isn't a part of the equation at all. Hell I don't even listen to the game on English VA for my initial playthroughs but JPN VA ((Bakool Ja Ja's JPN VA is hilarious)). The character is poorly written, that's a writing problem and has nothing to do with the Voice Acting at all. Granted, Wuk Lumat isn't the only poorly written character. DT is infested with them, it's just Wuk Lumat is shoved in our face constantly to the point where she has more lines in a single expansion than many primary characters have had across multiple expansions. This only magnifies the issues with the character and how much of a poorly written mary sue she is. I yearn for the day where I don't have another "Talk to Wuk Lumat" quest objective and have to read the character's poorly written peace spiel for the umpteenth time. Again, all counter to the English VA because I don't play any content or MSQ with English VA the first time around, but with the JPN VAs.
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  4. #74
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    This, please.

    I play with JP voices, and her JP VA really done the best she can, sadly it wasn't enough to save the character of Wuk Lamat. I played through ARR-EW 5 times and never missed a cutscene, but playing DT the second time.. nope, I just couldn't do it, I skipped every cutscene with Wuk Lamat in it. It's not only that she's everywhere and everything seems to revovle around her, which is extremly tiresome by itself, but as a character she's written very immaturly and resembles more a fanfiction character than a legitime part of FFXIV story. The whole expension MSQ felt like "playing safe", without any real painful consequenses, which is not how I felt with previous MSQs.

    They really need to delete her from further story arcs, please.
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  5. #75
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    My whole opinion on the expansion is that it wasn't that great not just because of one character, I think they could have done interesting things with wuk lamat but she was overused and fell under a lot of generic tropes

    Do I think DT (the story) is the worst? Nope no one can convince me ARR was better, but It was certainly not a good story or enjoyable for me. Was it because of wuk lamat? Yes and No the character was kinda annoying throughout 7.0 and I don't think the WOL should be side lined but at the same time I think that applies to the entire story just being bad, Wuk lamat is DT's scape goat on why it's "bad" because she has so many lines in it.

    Do I think removing Wuk lamat will fix the story? no. Frankly the main issue i have with the story is the scions and not wuk lamat, as long as we drag along the scions there will never be any sort of serious stakes where you don't know what will happen with characters, it also limits us to meet like very little characters like wuk lamat and have the entire story revolve around them rather then the story focusing on a group and their conflict and how they work with the WOL (Think back to SHB, The first expansion to properly utilizes the scions for character growth outside the twins). The problem is they've written themselves into a corner with these fake out scenes we all know the scions will be fine, we all know they've finished any sort of development so they come in to say zaney in character one liners for DT then we move on.

    The "Solution" to the story is to move away from scions give focus to multiple new characters and obviously the WOL's importance rather then being a side line mercenary mentor who doesn't do much but help the real protagonist. Depending on legacy characters to make the story interesting gets you no where, if they do decide to add new 1-2 characters but keep the scions expect them to get a bunch of lines and every other quest being "speak to X" because they know they can't depend on scions for a actual story anymore.
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  6. #76
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    Quote Originally Posted by TwiceDamned View Post
    Would you be saying that if the VA wasn't transgender?

    I don't think so.

    So many things are going to be blamed on her if this goes as I expect.
    I'm a queer demisexual heavily invested in the LGBTQ+ community. My FC was all LGBTQ.

    The VA is not the problem.
    The writing is the problem.

    She had to read crappy script for this game and unfortunately she got the blame.

    Her hands are clean, it's the script writers that people hate.
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    I hope the devs are listening. We need the devs to please listen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNDEAD10000 View Post
    Making wuk Lamat as a main character while making our own character as a side character was biggest mistake they ever made that simply destroying entire story of Dawntrail and i simply hope we will never see Wuk Lamat again after Dawntrail.
    Supposedly, Wol was meant to be a mentor to Wuk Lamat. So that's that.
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  8. #78
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    Quote Originally Posted by Veritas-Ancora View Post
    Her hands are clean, it's the script writers that people hate.
    Wuk Lamat's voice sounded like a cheese grater to my ears. On the other hand, the only VA in Dawntrail I actually liked was Gulool Ja Ja's, so pretty damned sure it has nothing to do with anyone's transness. The VA work was just not very good this time around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yukimin View Post
    Please remove this character from the game and the story. I can't stand this character anymore and every cutscene and interaction with this character in it is a chore to go through. I'm sure the majority of people feel the same way.

    It's time to put this annoying character in a shelf and never look back.

    Remove Wuk Lamat.
    Pray Return to the Waking WUK

    Please show you love WUK

    Please BOW TO WUK

    PLEASE PRAY TO WUK

    PLEASE SUMMON THE PRIMAL WUK LAMAT
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    You open the door theres nothing in sight. You close the door wondering whats in sight. But lets be honest its probably gonna just let you down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TeresaFortell View Post
    Supposedly, Wol was meant to be a mentor to Wuk Lamat. So that's that.
    Im still confused on what we mentored just so people know if you use a DPS <- meter tool and you look on final fight wuk does 35 million damage what a mary sue I wish i could drop 35 Million damage like that... would literally make raids easier lol. But yeah.......................im sure 8.0 will have wuk lamat come back to annoy us and kill more sub numbers.
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    You open the door theres nothing in sight. You close the door wondering whats in sight. But lets be honest its probably gonna just let you down.

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