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    Larirawiel Caennalys
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    A big investment fonds lists all issues of SQEX

    A very interesting analysis:
    https://www.3dipartners.com/wp-conte...-en-202512.pdf

    They list things like:
    * Fragmentation of the Development Portfolio
    * Deficiencies in Platform Selection
    * Deficiencies in Product Design
    * Deficiencies in Advertising and Promotion
    * Lagging Sales of Legacy Titles from Core IP

    And they complain about high operating costs, and that there are only very vague management strategies etc.


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    they should make gacha amiibos for the next mainline FF game where you need to gacha for the summons and there should be different rarities like there's only 1000 bahamuts but 100000 chocobo summons it would really drive up sales i think
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ajisaii View Post
    they should make gacha amiibos for the next mainline FF game where you need to gacha for the summons and there should be different rarities like there's only 1000 bahamuts but 100000 chocobo summons it would really drive up sales i think
    Eww. No thank you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Larirawiel View Post
    A very interesting analysis:
    https://www.3dipartners.com/wp-conte...-en-202512.pdf

    They list things like:
    * Fragmentation of the Development Portfolio
    * Deficiencies in Platform Selection
    * Deficiencies in Product Design
    * Deficiencies in Advertising and Promotion
    * Lagging Sales of Legacy Titles from Core IP

    And they complain about high operating costs, and that there are only very vague management strategies etc.


    Cheers
    SE has been in overall steady decline since around 2006. There has been some minor roller coastering along the way, but it's still been a downhill run overall. Honestly, none of this surprises me. I just wish the board would take note of it and actually attempt to course correct instead of using mobile game strategies and NFTs thinking they will somehow save the company when nobody wants that garbage. It's resulted in incredibly sloppy and disjointed development with blatantly bad games. They need to stem the bleeding but really all they've accomplished in their attempts is opening new wounds.
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    Have care about the ones who did bring those issues up:

    Their goal isn't to fix or preserve SE ... but to take it over, saddle it with debt, sell the assets then book it. It is all about getting the most money out of this, even if that means collapsing the business if that suits their goal.

    These people aren't your "allies" or "bros". They aren't going to "fix Final Fantasy", whatever your gripe may be with it.
    They are the ones wanting to squeeze the company so hard, that even blood would come out of a stone.

    But it's interesting how the budget allocation is, especially on Forespoken vs XVI.
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    Last edited by Arrius; 12-11-2025 at 04:25 AM.

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    We can crap on Forspoken all day, but it was just one game in an industry wide trend to appeal to specific audience that is very vocal and engaged with the industry, but ended up a minority of core gamers and resulted in flops from major developers and publishers all over the world. I would argue Dawntrail has aspects that are designed to appeal to that same type of player, too, but that gamer primarily sticks to indie and "cozy" games.

    SE is just one of the many major game development houses that have trend chased for so long that the core appeal of them is muddied. Most of us think of SE as previously being the gold standard of high fidelity JRPGs, meanwhile they're making action games and Splatoon knock-offs with the fidelity of those games and wondering why they aren't making money, and their JRPGs still do really well.
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    Why not name the player type / audience clearly instead of beating around the bush?
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    Secretly had a crush on Mao

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedLolly View Post
    We can crap on Forspoken all day, but it was just one game in an industry wide trend to appeal to specific audience that is very vocal and engaged with the industry, but ended up a minority of core gamers and resulted in flops from major developers and publishers all over the world. I would argue Dawntrail has aspects that are designed to appeal to that same type of player, too, but that gamer primarily sticks to indie and "cozy" games.
    There wasn't a real demand for that. It was at best being artificially pushed by heavily moderated social media and gaming journalists who don't actually represent gamers in any way. The main reason to point and laugh at stuff like Forspoken is because companies went all in on a trend that didn't actually exist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainLagbeard View Post
    There wasn't a real demand for that. It was at best being artificially pushed by heavily moderated social media and gaming journalists who don't actually represent gamers in any way. The main reason to point and laugh at stuff like Forspoken is because companies went all in on a trend that didn't actually exist.
    Pretty much.

    Those games DO have fans and I absolutely saw the voices that asked for those trends grow and even delight in those games. But you are absolutely correct that it was artificially inflated by how social media is run.
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    Isn't this the group of finance bros who bought enough stock to have a say and are trying to basically oust the ppl in charge so they can put their ppl in charge? We have seen these groups do this over and over again, ruining company after company gaming, food, retail, etc so they can make as much as quickly as they can, and if that happens it will be the death of SE. Not the chicken little death of SE but the actual one.
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