Please don't add the autorun

[FeyFavilla]

Im confused the game already has autorun... well it just goes forward.. and we have the follow function. Unless they meant like autorun as in forcing u to run thru quests like how mounts with cutscenes were (i.e. argos.. seikret..)???

Err, they mean an autorun feature like mobile MMOs have. It functions by basically doing the travel from NPC to NPC for you. Some still make you click through the text, some also skip that part and the game just fully plays itself. It doesn't just run in a straight line. Auto-pathing might be an easier term to use.

[Absurdity]

Give me source please. Because even solo run with trust, you can interact with props or any other clickable mech. Halatalli chains are no problem for example.

Halatali chains are interactable outside of combat and only initiate combat afterwards, that means you only need the one player running with trusts to be able to interact with them, ergo they do not matter for actually designing the dungeon around trusts.

The issue was never with interactables that are just for traversal or any kind of downtime within the dungeon.
It's specifically fight mechanics that require interacting with something or performing any kind of action that isn't just "dodge the hit". Because trusts can't do it and the single actual player might not be the correct role to do it themselves (can't use interactables when you're the tank and constantly getting slapped).

Pretty sure Thousand Maws is quite literally the only reworked dungeon that removed any environmental interactivity outside of boss fights.

Just to name a few:

Thousand Maws, removed interactables, removed goo puddles and removed the vacuum spider web walls.
Removed interactables on the 2nd boss, removed the adds and walls on the 3rd boss of Copperbell Mines.
Removed interactable torches on the 3rd boss in Haukke Manor.
Removed adds on the 1st boss in Halatali, probably because the trusts aren't very good at target prioritization or switching targets mid-fight unless it is heavily scripted and their current target simply disappears.
Removed the snowball mechanic on the 2nd boss of Snowcloak.
Removed the need to kill the floating stone heads on specific platforms in Sunken Temple of Qarn.
Removed the cannon on the 2nd boss in Stone Vigil.
Removed dynamically placed poison puddles and the boss healing while standing in said puddles from the 4th boss in Brayflox Longstop (and for some reason removed the optional path when going from the 2nd to the 3rd boss???)

The last one is especially baffling. The only thing I can imagine is that there were already pathing issues because it's not a single corridor.

And you can absolutely expect them to remove the interactable fruit in Aurum Vale when they redesign that one, which probably means the removal of the entire Gold Lung mechanic.

[Alicie]

So, in recent interview, Yoshi-P stated that they're discussing whether to add autorun (to the quest goals) or not. Autorun is a horrible addition that should never be a part of a PC game, leave it for mobile garbage. The game outside of battle content is already not very engaging, and removing even the act of manual movement would make it even worse.

Yoshi-P said he looked at other MMOs, right? Every MMO that has autorun feature is either on life support (because it's horribly bad and being kept alive so a few people who still play it buy shit from the shop) or p2w with a clear pvp focus (in a sense that there's literally nothing else to do except pvp). FFXIV is neither of those things.

Did the team learn nothing from Endwalker with it's boring dumbed down casual content and jobs? Didn't Yoshi-P say that they will focus on existing players instead of doing everything to get new ones, starting from 7.0? You have a solid playerbase that enjoys a healthy challenge, from casual (dungeons, EX trials) to midcore and hardcore (savage and ultimate) players.

I am fairly sure that the crowd they trying to pull into FF with this autorun feature will not stay in the game for more than a month. Because it's the same crowd that jumps onto every new hype gacha game, throws money at it and then jumps onto a new one. None of these people will stay, and ruining the experience for a long term players just so you can get a one-time payment from mobile crowd isn't a good strategy.

To be fair yes, we just need a button to straight skip to the latest expansion, not some autorun.

[Sorabaka]

You already have it, it's in the shop. You can skip MSQ up to any expansion of your choice.

[vincexorcized]

Halatali chains are interactable outside of combat and only initiate combat afterwards, that means you only need the one player running with trusts to be able to interact with them, ego they do not matter for actually designing the dungeon around trusts.

The issue was never with interactables that are just for traversal or any kind of downtime within the dungeon.
It's specifically fight mechanics that require interacting with something or performing any kind of action that isn't just "dodge the hit". Because trusts can't do it and the single actual player might not be the correct role to do it themselves (can't use interactables when you're the tank and constantly getting slapped).



Just to name a few:

Thousand Maws, removed interactables, removed goo puddles and removed the vacuum spider web walls.
Removed interactables on the 2nd boss, removed the adds and walls on the 3rd boss of Copperbell Mines.
Removed interactable torches on the 3rd boss in Haukke Manor.
Removed adds on the 1st boss in Halatali, probably because the trusts aren't very good at target prioritization or switching targets mid-fight unless it is heavily scripted and their current target simply disappears.
Removed the snowball mechanic on the 2nd boss of Snowcloak.
Removed the need to kill the floating stone heads on specific platforms in Sunken Temple of Qarn.
Removed the cannon on the 2nd boss in Stone Vigil.
Removed dynamically placed poison puddles and the boss healing while standing in said puddles from the 4th boss in Brayflox Longstop (and for some reason removed the optional path when going from the 2nd to the 3rd boss???)

The last one is especially baffling. The only thing I can imagine is that there were already pathing issues because it's not a single corridor.

And you can absolutely expect them to remove the interactable fruit in Aurum Vale when they redesign that one, which probably means the removal of the entire Gold Lung mechanic.

Thanks for detailed answer, didn't realise it was that much.

I still maintain if the auto-run is optional, it's a "whatever" feature, that some people might enjoy.

[Absurdity]

Thanks for detailed answer, didn't realise it was that much.

I still maintain if the auto-run is optional, it's a "whatever" feature, that some people might enjoy.

If it just turns out to be an entirely optional feature then I am also whatever about it.
My concern is simply that it will have a negative knock-on effect on world design to make the auto-pathing function.

[HammAndCheese]

I'd be ok with more "hop onto this animal and ride across the map with an ally while talking lore about the region" quests personally. I'd like more of those voiced too tbh. We already technically have an autorun, you just go straight until you run into something. I don't see a need to fully afk this game during quests.

[Hyperia]

I also agree that auto run and teleport to next step should not be used.

Auto run makes sense on a mobile phone but not on a console or PC game. It’s a slippery slope and it would eventually devolve into something I don’t want to think about.

[Larirawiel]

It seems, that they really try to compete with movie streaming services like Netflix. The ingame cutscenes are becoming longer and longer and they implement more and more features, which ensure, that the players play less because there are shortcuts everywhere and everything is becoming semi automated. And i do not think, that it is the right direction. A game is a game and not a movie.


Cheers

[Underscore]

Agreed. Yoshi-P's recent comments like this have me worried about my favourite MMO.