Dawntrail character graphics update - opinions, requests and discussion megathread

[faiarrow]

Apparently, Yugiri's Au Ra head is in the files for (the still CN locked) FFXIV Mobile. I've never felt so stressed in my life.

Given my WoL actually looks like herself in mobile I absolutely know where you're coming from with this The upside is when that eventually comes we've got another point of reference to give as a "why can an entire other team honour the visual aesthetic significantly better than CU3 actual" even if it will be a bitter one.

I want out of this plasticine-face nightmare...

[Kharn]

I'm not sure if it belongs in here, since it involves hairstyles on characters in DT, but one of the major advertisements of 7.3 was the inclusion of hair bangs that peek out from beneath hoods similar as they do in hats. However, several of the classic ARR hairstyles for Femme Midlanders are either botched or simply don't have this feature. In particular, I've used this hairstyle below that's been a staple since ARR (and on popular characters like Rowena) and she goes completely bald with certain hats and hoods, with an altered sidebang on others. It'd be nice if we could get cute front bangs or fringes peeking out from the front of these hoods like the hairstyle normally has, especially so that it can compare to newer and more modern hairstyles that have received this feature aesthetically as of the current patch. The comparison below is taken as of 7.3:

[Astronis]

I'm not sure if it belongs in here, since it involves hairstyles on characters in DT, but one of the major advertisements of 7.3 was the inclusion of hair bangs that peek out from beneath hoods similar as they do in hats. However, several of the classic ARR hairstyles for Femme Midlanders are either botched or simply don't have this feature. In particular, I've used this hairstyle below that's been a staple since ARR (and on popular characters like Rowena) and she goes completely bald with certain hats and hoods, with an altered sidebang on others. It'd be nice if we could get cute front bangs or fringes peeking out from the front of these hoods like the hairstyle normally has, especially so that it can compare to newer and more modern hairstyles that have received this feature aesthetically as of the current patch. The comparison below is taken as of 7.3:

Might be worth reporting that in the bug forum. It may be intended due to the shape of the hoods, but could be an oversight also. Can't hurt in any case.

[Kharn]

Might be worth reporting that in the bug forum. It may be intended due to the shape of the hoods, but could be an oversight also. Can't hurt in any case.

Took your recommendation! But just in case it's not a bug, then my desires still stand to see certain ARR hairstyles brought to the fidelity of recent ones in Dawntrail, especially where it concerns headwear hiding a majority of the unique aspects of the hair.

[lunartears]

I'm not sure if it belongs in here, since it involves hairstyles on characters in DT, but one of the major advertisements of 7.3 was the inclusion of hair bangs that peek out from beneath hoods similar as they do in hats. However, several of the classic ARR hairstyles for Femme Midlanders are either botched or simply don't have this feature. In particular, I've used this hairstyle below that's been a staple since ARR (and on popular characters like Rowena) and she goes completely bald with certain hats and hoods, with an altered sidebang on others. It'd be nice if we could get cute front bangs or fringes peeking out from the front of these hoods like the hairstyle normally has, especially so that it can compare to newer and more modern hairstyles that have received this feature aesthetically as of the current patch. The comparison below is taken as of 7.3:

I have the same issue with my hairstyle (on hats as well), if you report it they would say it's intended (speaking from experience). Some older hairstyles just don't get to have their bangs show due to clipping. It's very inconsistent though, there are hairstyles with some clipping that I see showing their bangs. I understand the frustration because there is a particular item I really want to wear but my bangs being cut off ruins it.

[MoonNoire]

Given my WoL actually looks like herself in mobile I absolutely know where you're coming from with this The upside is when that eventually comes we've got another point of reference to give as a "why can an entire other team honour the visual aesthetic significantly better than CU3 actual" even if it will be a bitter one.

I want out of this plasticine-face nightmare...

How do you even botch the eyes this much
Characters just refuse to smile after DT

[lunartears]

From a recent 4Gamer interview, translated with DeepL:

For instance, races like the Elezen and Miqo'te Moonkeepers can have moles placed in favourable positions on their faces. Following our “graphics update”, which has expanded what is technically possible, we are considering allowing moles to be added to races that were previously excluded. We anticipate this scope for such customisation will broaden going forward.

However, we certainly have no plans to go as far as allowing Au Ra horns on Lalafell, and I don't foresee us doing so in the future. Players hold the distinct identity of each race in very high regard.

Seems they are considering expanding the character creator in the future to allow more options that are otherwise race-locked, sadly no consideration for old face types.

[RedLolly]

To me it reads like whatever server limitations they had on how many options can be layered and toggled on and off on an individual player character is higher than before.

What's funny is that's literally the reason Au Ra horns are locked; server load shenanigans.

So actually adding more options to faces on some level is in the pipeline, but what he described is the specifically expanding the "facial feature" category with more options.

[Shistar]

To me it reads like whatever server limitations they had on how many options can be layered and toggled on and off on an individual player character is higher than before.

What's funny is that's literally the reason Au Ra horns are locked; server load shenanigans.

So actually adding more options to faces on some level is in the pipeline, but what he described is the specifically expanding the "facial feature" category with more options.

I think the reason we don't have a separate section to choose our horns has to do with the amount of options you can edit in the character creator. An example:
While Wildwood Elezen can choose ear clasps and color, Duskwight Elezen can choose face tattoos and color instead. We don't have both options, and they seem to occupy the same "slot" in the character creator menu so to speak.

While I am not sure, my theory is that they have to figure out how to add more menu options to the character creator more than server load issues. It's not the same to have 7 facial features instead of 6, than to have 1-2 more menu options with 4+ features inside each.

Then again, no idea. We could really use more options for our characters. I hope they figure it out asap.

[Darko]

Looked at Emet again today. I miss the glow of his eyes in his Ancient form so much. He just has dead eyes and a blank expression. Like my midlander who still has this weird resting stoned puffy botoxed face.

I never thought I'd say but I'd give anything to have the old graphics back. We had an edge, we had the spark of life in our eyes.

I want out of this plasticine-face nightmare...

Same.

The lighting when we saw Emet again after arriving in Elpis made the scene so magical. That magic is gone. It needs to be brought back. Lighting in this game needs to be restored.

We also need a lot more faces to choose from. And fix Thancred's face, thank you. I don't want a clone of my midlander, I want Thancred. I also want more eye colours, glowing, neon, the works. More make-up colours, more flashier ones.